Why isn't Jim Ryan timely on his FB site about the Chief hiding the salaries from either the Osage people or the NIGC or both? I'm hearing rumors of $100,000 plus and benefits on top of that for those who work for the Chief not disclosed on the Office of the Chiefs budget to the Congress. Even the Judicial Branch came forward and gave support documentation to the Congress to justify the costs and the salaries. Chief is using the Supreme Court decision to hide what these people are being paid and we have a right to know. Jim is always up to speed on his site and he has a big Osage outreach. Yancy Red Corn is up to date with his FB site and Jeff Irons is leading the charge other than that nitwit who doesn't seem to know that this is a government in service to and for the Osage people and is calling the Congress and the Osage people's right to know petty about what these salaries are in these budgets. Nice try but NOT! We have needed to keep a eye on these people who work for this government since they put it into effect and began treating the money in the Osage Nation's Treasury like it's a Pirate's treasure chest. Chief, you don't like that we don't like what you are paying these people who rarely if ever are there to answer the phone or return a phone call or are rude to you when they do, stop paying them so much money. Can't wait to throw you right out on your hind end come the next election. What a stunning disappointment you have turned out to be overall.
If you thought the Executive Branch and the Chief has been acting weird lately. Here is another reason to continue with that opinion. They Executive Branch just delivered 23 boxes of documents to the Congress due to the recent subpoena. These are letter size file boxes and it took 4 men to carry them in to the Congressional office. Can you picture this? I imagine videos of the delivery were being taken..............Here's the weird part: Each box contained no more that 5 or 6 letter size papers and some of those were copies of the subpoena. This will be just some of the Standing Bear legacy.
I guess he's being vindictive? Childishness is more like it. When are we going to have mature adults and not creeps and stinkards in the highest office in the Osage Nation?
This not good and bad for business oh thats right our Government doesn't create stability the people do the Government spends your money and doesn't have to acvout for it or follow the law. Sound familiar? ��
That has to be the most insulting action against a Legislative Branch that I have heard of in quite some time. Clearly we must have legislation similar to 2 U.S.C.A. § 192, enacted by the U.S. Congress in 1938, that defines Contempt of Congress and places penalties under the law for violating it. See https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/contempt_of_congress
Congress has the authority to hold a person in contempt if the person's conduct or action obstructs the proceedings of Congress or, more usually, an inquiry by a committee of Congress.
Contempt of Congress is defined in statute, 2 U.S.C.A. § 192, enacted in 1938, that any person who is summoned before Congress who "willfully makes default, or who, having appeared, refuses to answer any question pertinent to the question under inquiry" shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and subject to a maximum $1,000 fine and 12 month prison term.
This would be the Osage Nation Congress for legislation on an inter-branch basis. The Federal statute doesn't cover what happens with our sovereign government.
Isn't this the shareholders blog only? All this stuff going on in our congress is nothing new, they just thro Osage money to everyone except the Osage People. But I thought this was for the MC and our problems. And we have plenty. Is the Fletcher case dead?
The Fletcher case is alive and well. My guess as I have said is the Federal Government is stalling. My guess they don't have 20 years of accounting and cannot accoount where and how and who are responsible for our money. The Federal Government should already have our accounting in order after all how was Cobell case resolved. Gc services already did the accounting for the Government.
I know, and I am indulging this during the Congressional regular sessions because this is when legislation appears which may impact the Mineral Estate. Leasing on Osage Nation land is the subject of legislation, the Chief putting his toe in the water about salaries pertinent to the Office of the Chiefs being hidden in this budget that may lead to similar non-disclosures of salaries and benefits of the MC should the Osage Nation take over the running of the Osage Minerals Estate and so on and so forth. Being bled dry by a whole new bureaucracy for the OME is of interest to the Shareholders and if it isn't then it certainly should be.
If the Chief wants to go toe to toe we can look to the justice system which we find ourselves in this endless battle with our government needs to end once and for all. We either get off our duffs and do something about this unethical behavior which I hope does not set the precedent for future Chiefs if thats the case I will run for Chief and change will come where we can he proud of our Chief and end the endless roundtable of division and build respect. Long over due. You know the sayin just because you can doesn't mean hou should? Our Chief looks like he's been doing a lot of can. Accountability is so elementary and yet we our witnessing someone who is entitled to undermine what Congrees is to do at task and follow the OSAGE constitution and most importantly to do what the Osage expects of him to stop protecting the self interest at the expense of his constituency. We all are aware of the cost of living in and around the surrounding area if the salries are up there then we need to reign in the Executive. And if the Cheif were to try and take the responsibilities from the MC we would have him in Court and have him remo ed it would be in direct conflict of the shareholder's interest.
Again we hear that the Congress cares about us and yet it was far more than just the Office of the Chiefs budget that was not justified, disclosed or supported with documentation to the Congress this go round. When you submit numbers on a budget and you start moving it around indiscriminately, AFTER APPROVAL OF THAT BUDGET AND THE APPROPRIATION HAS BEEN MADE, you are committing a crime known as fiscal misappropriation. Not letting our elected representatives know where the money is supposed to be going doesn't change that fact. The Judicial Branch has come out with an opinion in writing that the Executive is taking to mean that no justification to the Osage Congress is now even necessary and that they can move money around any way they like. In ever other community where there is a government with a budget associated with it, such a set of circumstances is known as a budgetary catastrophe. All the lawyers associated with this disastrous situation must be investigated and diciplined by the Oklahoma Supreme Court and the Oklahoma Bar and that includes the Chief, the lawyers he has on staff who are advising him and the two female justices of the Osage Nation Supreme Court. The Osage Congress has passed out these budgets without a proper due diligence as representatives of the Osage people with the exception of Congreswoman Shannon Edwards. If you care about this Osage government, you must take action. You must get in touch with the Osage Attorney General to make your demands known that this kind of fiscal misappropriation, non-disclosure and lack of due diligence on the part of the Chiefs and the guilty members of the Osage Congress is unacceptable. We know what is part and parcel of good governance and what is not and we must take action to stop this situation right in its tracks. We are not reinventing the wheel here. We are not so set apart that we can tolerate a system of corruption and misappropriation to take place as an institutional precedent. If the AG refuses to act, then she too must be added to the list for investigation, review and dicipline at the Oklahoma State level. In any case, this has gone too far and no elected official engaging in this situation be they the Chief, the members of the Osage Nation Congress or the two Justices of the Osage Nation Supreme Court should ever be reelected by the members of the Osage Nation. AND I MEAN EVER AGAIN!
Unreal I expect to hear from each and everyone in Osage Congress except Ms.Edwards why they literally passed a blind budget? What Government does this without the diligence and oath that they took to uphold our Constitution. I cannot fathom or wrap my head around this. Man now look what they did hear we go right into Court. Unbelievable. I will be making calls as well. If this doesn't stink of a corrupt Government.
"Edwards said her “no” votes are due to the budget requests submitted by the Principal Chief’s office without support documentation to support those requests and newer updated budgets submitted in early September as well." http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/10/06/congress-passes-budgets-chief-standing-bear-vetoes-five-bills/
This is so unbelievable that you won't be able to wrap your mind around it! Take a look at these numbers that the Chief is complaining about not getting enough money this go round. 10 years ago the previous Osage tribal government was run on a drawdown of ONE MILLION BUCKS ALL IN! Keep in mind that these numbers are for the Executive Branch alone and do not include that for the Legislative and Executive Branches that are into the hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars too. https://s3.amazonaws.com/osagenation-nsn.gov/files/Executive/First-Analysis-FY17-Appropriations.pdf Note the amounts that are requested by the Executive Branch and add up the totals for the salaries and wages and then add the employee benefits. Just over $28 million for the programs in the divisions where half or more of the totals listed are for office and administration costs not money that goes out to directly benefit you and your families. Then you look at the totals of $31,500,000 for the employees (530 at last count) in salaries, wages and benefits who rarely answer the phone, return a phone call or when you finally do get them on the phone, are rude or behave as if they're too busy to talk to you. Now, in your opinion, do these people deserve, as those who are there to serve the Osage people who rarely if ever do, a merit performance total bonus of $405,051? Meanwhile we go without and they are still shoveling by the truckload now mind you, dollar bills at one another to the detriment of all of us who are Osage Nation members who are not young, not old and who are not going to college or university. Can you even begin to try to come to understand how the Chief could even have the shockingly entitled attitude to think that in his supreme dueness that he has the right to an additional $1,813,963 in total? People, we have an absolute duty to get rid of the like of such as Geoffrey StandingBear and Raymond Redcorn come in 2018. This must come to a stop and we are going to have to come up with a written pledge that we must have signed by all of those who we elect to stop this hideous and heinous greed within our government. Just because they have the money doesn't mean they have to give it one another who work for the Osage Nation.
There is a misunderstanding among the Osages. We have two entities: The Osage People and the Osage Government. The government owns the casinos and whatever capital ventures it controls. The government owns the revenue of these enterprises. The government is going to spend the revenue on itself and those that control the purse strings. The Osage people do not own the casino revenue thus, the revenue is not the people’s money.
We the people are merely Osage members by decree of a signature since 2006. Yet, the Osage people have no say when congress determines the budgets. Running a government cost money and it needs to spend all it’s revenue because if there is a surplus the people will be expecting a per-cap from the generated revenue. The Osage government cannot allow a per-cap because once started it cannot end lest politicians reap the ire of the people. It is best for the Osage government to keep expectations low for the people so that it may concentrate in growing its own bureaucracy.
The Osage Nation government was never truly intended to serve the Osage people. It was created to control the gaming revenue, capital ventures and property….including the Minerals Estate. The Osage people believe that the Osage government is broken. The truth is that the government is performing as exactly intended. The government does not control the heritage, the history, nor the people at large - nor does it intend to because there is no profit in such matters.
Can the Osage people rise up and demand a better government? Yes, but the politicians want to keep the status quo by keeping voter turn out low. And only those with a vested interested in governmental affairs will vote certain members into elected position. How else do believe that the same unpopular people keep getting reelected and people of questionable character get into office?
I think you need to read the Constitution of the Osage Nation. The gaming money absolutely belongs to the Osage people whether they have a headright or not. This government has been taken over by greed driven officials who either want to lavish the money on those who work for the government, those they are related to or those they know or a combination of all three for the purpose of staying in office year after year. You can make this up as you go along but you are dead wrong in your assumption that the only Osages who have a right to the gaming proceeds are those who work for the government. There is a Federal law that is supposed to see to it that the money benefits the membership of any Tribe with gaming proceeds and it's known as the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act. Improving the economic situation of only those who work for the Osage Nation is not the extent of it. To prove to you that the Osage people are unsatisfied with the governance they have had in the past from the Osage Nation Congress you have only to look at the last election results in June and the number of undervoted ballots. 1,990 Osage members voted in total and of that total, 1,422 Osages undervoted their ballots meaning that they voted for less than six candidates. This constitutes 72.5% of those who voted marked their ballot with less that the number of choices they had available to them. If this isn't as strong a no-confidence vote and as strong a message as can be sent to our elected officials this has got to be it. The inappropriate and unfair way they overwhelmingly spend the money on the government itself by their Congressional votes to appropriate the money as members of the Osage Nation Congress is the top ranking complaint of all with Osage Nation constituents across the board.
See https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/what-we-do/elections and http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/06/13/election-board-conduct-recount-2016-election-june-15/
As of 2015, roughly 7% of the total population of the USA is employed by the Federal government. If you run the numbers, roughly 2% of the Osage Nation members as of January 2015 were employed by the Osage Nation government. The budget numbers to pay for these employees is roughly $31,500,000 of a total of $52,000,000 in total tribal funds available. Thats 60% of all tribal funds available. Of the trillions of dollars spent on the Federal Budget, there is no way that 60% of the total goes toward salaries, wages and payroll taxes. This Osage Nation government is eating us alive and all of the benefits we all could be enjoying if these people were paid commensurate with what they should be paid in real world terms for the area surrounding Pawhuska, Oklahoma. The Osage Nation Congress to this day protests that they don't how much they really have to spend because the number keeps changing from day to day. Every year we get the promise that they will get it right the next time but they have had 21 Regular Sessions involving budgets or adjusted budgets with additional spending since this new government was formed in 2006. When are they going to get this right and when are they going to stop paying for employees who are either unnecessary or who don't do a good job for the Osage Nation people?
When the Congressional trial was taking place to oust Chief Red Eagle, one of the witnesses was asked about her employment situation. She stated that she was the sixth level of management up above the entry level in her Division. WTH are we doing with 6 management levels in any one Division of the Osage Nation government anyway? This is all fodder for keeping the gaming funds inside Osage County and not outside of it. This, in part, accounts for why salaries and wages are so exorbitant for the Executive Branch as shown right here:
Everytime I read, what is going on here, I go back to HR 2912 and its meaning and this is what I have to say. In my opinion a few decided for the Majority and the DOI falied hugely to monitor our elections. Not just that we were a Government established already this act was to allow for more membership , to give them a right to vote in our election process and would allow them to receive benefits from the federal government and instead decided to form this de facto Government all so they can control with their inflated salaries to exist all you have to do is chase the money right. Sound familiar, Hillary anyone? What a stinking crock of spoiled berries. We see the writing on the wall. We want a smaller Government if we dont get one we will and I mean we will do a one page rewrite of the Constitution and all of you will be put on notice so say I or we will bring this house of cards back to the original state to the MC. We can right the wrong with one phone call Mr. Redcorn. Your feel good stories printed in the Osage News has no meaning. Just thought you should know.
If you read my commentary from a bureaucrat's point of view, you will see the sarcasm of the dialog. My point is to show the perspective of those who seek power to control all things Osage while ignoring the very resource it claims to serve. The Osage government (politicians) will serve itself (and themselves) first and the people at a distant second. We can have all the constitutional laws we want but of what use are they if the the laws are ignored?
I get that you were being sarcastic. For the sake of those who work for the Osage government, I made this clarification because many if not most actually do believe that the money belongs pretty much exclusively to them.
The BHT version of the Osage Nation Supreme Court Decision: http://barnsdalltimes.com/http:/barnsdalltimes.com/uncategorized/osage-supreme-court-rules-that-minerals-council-must-follow-ethics-laws I more than beg to differ. The absolute worst offenses against Osage headright holders include the side swipe this new government takes at the BIA and the current MC when without both over the last 110 years it would have been nothing but the same destruction and chaos over the Osage, LLC. Tallgrass, LLC and now this Bluestem Ranch deal that is daily spiraling down into the vortex of the same Osage Nation black hole. A new Constitutional government which has stolen the running of the entire government from the Shareholders, who treats them and their representatives on the MC like filth, has stolen or appropriated their trust land and property without just compensation, given the proceeds of that trust land to a bureaucracy that grows by the day and eats up at last count $111,000,000 plus this coming FY year alone along with countless millions in the last ten years since this interloper moved in on the Headright owners with the votes of non-members in order to do it before the membership of the new government had even been determined. Hell before the new government had even been formed! This woman thinks she can run out this line of horse manure on me, she has got another thing coming. And the lies they tell lies upon lies upon lies about what has taken place in order to justify this fraudulent thing that masquerades as a legal replacement for the Osage Tribal government to any and all who are fool enough to listen or read such disingenuous printed english. I'm not having it and I hope you are astute enough to reject their vile obfuscations out of hand. Misdirected my a**! How dare you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Enterprise Board argued that they needed to recreate and rebrand the company, thus Tallgrass LLC was formed. However, both Tallgrass Construction and Tallgrass Technology are still subsidiaries of Osage LLC. TC is Osage Pinnacle Design Group and TT is Osage Innovative Solutions. You can verify this by visiting www.sam.gov and searching for Tallgrass Construction and Tallgrass Technology using the search records function. Also, enter osagellc.com in a web browser and see what site comes up.
The whole mess of the ON government reminds me of the lines from Sir Walter Scott's Marmion - "Oh, what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive!"
Check out the Chickasaw Nations "businesses/industries/accomplishments" on their website (impressive). They seem to have people knowing about the business world. Looks like they picked companies that were "needed" and then seeked government contracts.
The Enterprise Board's model is to be a front for other companies that perform the actual work and mark up the contract to skim a little off the top. That isn't a model which will ever put Osages to work, nor will it ever build a successful business. With a reported $6 million to $7 million or so in contract revenue this year and only two employees it is hard to understand how Tallgrass is still losing money if the markup is 10% or more. Where are they spending the rest of the money?
You are both right. Its skimming or money laundering but no doubt was born from corruption from the start. I am one preaching all over the place about the Chickasaw Nation. I have been there with a first hand tour and is something to see the policies and standard they have is thru the roof. We are far from setting that exampke because to many have their hands in the cookie jar rife with cronyism and nepotism. Unless we crack that jar wide open the Osage meaning you and me are headed for a fight. As I would say the upper Echelon would rather keep the status quo. Time fort he Osage take back our Government for the people by the people and of the people.
When you pay these non-Osages at the helm, CEO, CFO and COO, an exorbitant salary and benefits and then close up the options, by an Act of the Osage Congress, for the Osage Nation as the member to get in there and take a look at what is going on with the day to day, according to the Harvard Project model that is a school of government entity not one of economics, this is what you have to deal with. Trust with verification is apparently a part of the game plan they know nothing about and wish to know nothing about either.
BHT has a story on the Osage Nation filing for a $1 million default judgment against three companies that were once part of the Osage LLC., in the October 13th 2016 issue. https://www.facebook.com/Bigheart-Times-130472647019594/
The only thing the Osage Nation knows how to do is get itself in trouble legally, lose assets like the reservation and exorbitant amounts of money. With this running track record that continues on a daily basis, if the BIA approves a compact to run the minerals estate by the Osage Nation, it will be tantamount to gross dereliction of duty under the fiduciary obligation it has to the headright owner beneficiaries of the OME Trust.
Tallgrass is being run by Jill Jones as the general manager? Isn't she the wife of former AG Jeff Jones who the Chief GSB tried to replace but he had some sort of Federal prosecution designation and had to be demoted rather than be let go from the employ of the Osage Nation altogether? Now were paying for an AG in addition to an Assistant AG if I'm right. Plus Jill's collecting a salary from the ONES Board she still sits on as well. JUST GREAT!
What will the Bluestem Ranch show as progress in just 2 years. In 5 years will it still be barren with buffalo chips. I hope Trump wins (even if he has PD (personality disorder), he wants to start manufacturing here again (US). Let's build an "industrial centre" on the ranch and jump start Trumps election talk. What product would you suggest be invested in (metals, microsemi (military contracts). Maybe get a contract with Boeing for just "one part." (And, toilet paper is a best seller!)
They were in executive session for quite some time. I couldn't get second session either so I emailed Lou Brock. He said the IT person had to leave. I am not sure what happened to Mixlr. It appears they will be using youtube from now on.
That seems right to me too. They stopped using the old system during the last Special Session of the ON Congress. This is just as good. Bookmark this page for easy reference: https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/minerals-council/meeting-information
Here we go again with the lawyers making the money that should be going to the membership in benefits: http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/10/19/osage-congress-requests-more-time-respond-chiefs-complaint-subpoenas-lawsuit/ "In the Sept. 19 complaint, Standing Bear asked the court to quash or modify the Sept. 8 and Sept. 9 subpoenas citing undue burden to provide the information and also argues the subpoenas require testimony, but those subpoenas did not state a subject of testimony." This RAB and his sidekick iPad Ray has had since May or June to compile these budget numbers. People are being paid salaries out of two to three different budgets and the whole thing is totally out of control. They have clearly lost complete control of the whole process in the Executive Branch and should be brought before a hearing of the Osage Nation Congress to account for what has been going on. The Osage Congress has tools to use if they were only smart enough to figure that out. Meanwhile GSB keeps slapping them with lawsuit after lawsuit so the Osage people don't know what he's up to with these budgets and can't find out. This guy is proving to be a sensational creep hands down and without question. Free us from GSB! Free us from GSB! Free us from GSB! Free us from GSB!
They can't possibly run the minerals estate. They can't even agree to disagree with one another or from one branch to another. This government does not work and it's a failure. After 10 long horrible years enduring the crap that goes on with this Osage Nation, does this come close to what was expected from the Strategic Plan? Never! At some point an assessment needs to be made and we need to flush this government down the toilet where it belongs. How many undervotes were there in the last election? 1422! If this isn't a vote of no confidence I don't know what is. When are they going to grow up and stop being so institutionally sociopathically selfish between and among themselves with our money and do the right thing to make this government work properly for us and not for them and their self interest? What's the big deal about accounting to the Congress and the Osage people for where the money is going, for what, to whom and for how much in these Executive Branch budgets? Who died and made GSB Bobby Jindal or Barack Obama? From the Harvard Business School and not the fiscally stupid and inept Harvard School of Government: http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/why-leaders-lose-their-way How did one of the School of Government, Harvard Project, white paper writers do for us while he sat on the Board of the Osage, LLC?
More on Osage lawyers and how crazy it can get: Feds Say Osage Lawyers May Merit Zilch After 14-Year Case "...the government questioned whether the attorneys could be reimbursed for anything at all because they worked for a contingency fee, their clients didn’t “incur” any costs and they didn’t win any damages." "They requested $628,003...$44,360...$1,163,302..." Hahahahahahaha! http://www.law360.com/articles/784561/feds-say-osage-lawyers-may-merit-zilch-after-14-year-case
Amanda Proctor of Shield Law Group PLC is the lawyer to trying get money back from Carol Leese of the Osage LLC isn't she? Where are we on that, I wonder or is she still chasing down Tribal Powpows across the country?
The roster so far this year for William S. Fletcher et al. v. U.S. et al., case number 4:02-cv-00427, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Oklahoma.: http://www.law360.com/cases/4d355e1d5cdfbf4a3f000001/articles
As for Amanda's efforts to recover money from Leese and Petre et al., she's not doing so well. The claims against Petre were dismissed in all three lawsuits, and Leese filed petitions on grounds of lack of standing for which the judge found merit and ordered a hearing.
The day after the hearing all of the documents related to all three cases were removed from the OSCN.net website. At least Amanda was smart enough to see that money to fund the prosecution of these cases was allocated by the Osage Nation so that her law firm would get paid. The only losers here will be the Osage Nation and its members for throwing good money after bad.
They didn't prosecute the guilty ones who appropriated the money for Leese and the OLLC and the dead stupid Chiefs who signed off on continued funding time after time after time for such a stinking all out loser.
This is how foundationally immature and childishly spiteful the Chief is... http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/10/20/executive-branch-delivers-near-empty-boxes-congress-response-subpoena-requests/ This guy is not only a creep, he's an embarrassment. I would die of shame before I would pull a crap stunt like this one. Get him before a Congressional Committee for Contempt of Congress and make him account for himself like the last Chief had to do.
"...documents not delivered contained confidential information." Government salaries are not confidential information. The Osage people have a right to know who is being paid and how much. Osage Nation Constitution: "This Constitution, created by Osage People, hereby grants to every Osage citizen a vote that is equal to all others and forms a government that is accountable to the citizens of the Osage Nation."
Of course it is our right to know who is getting paid, after all we are paying them right, its our money, how do you think we are to see if corruption exists which we know it does, why else wouldn't the Chief not protect the interest of the Osage if he didn't have something to hide. I call el gato gordo. The fat cat has had his hand in the cookie jar and just follow the money trail. We were warned about GSB and all of you voted for someone who has lied to the Osage. And you know whats worse is we are out 18,000,000 dollars and Congress is equally responsible for this they did not do the diligence. A let me see the Contract they didn't get to see they just took someones word right? Is this is what happened with the purchase of Bluestem. Just keeping it real.
Osage Supreme Court rules that Minerals Council must follow ethics laws http://barnsdalltimes.com/http:/barnsdalltimes.com/uncategorized/osage-supreme-court-rules-that-minerals-council-must-follow-ethics-laws But in the Sept. 29, 2016, there is an article, "Accused Killer Walks" where Osage Tribal Court Judge Marvin Stepson grants a dismissal to Thomas Mongrain Eaves because he didn't get a speedy trial. How long has the court case been for the MC? This Osage Nation government is such a disgrace. When Stepson comes up for election, you know exactly what to do.
Thomas Eaves to appear in ON Trial Court on second-degree homicide charge This man, who has been convicted for killing his own father and for victim tampering is charged by the Osage Trial Court in mid-April 2016 and then freed by Judge Stepson on Sept. 22, 2016? This isn't a speedy trial? Yet, those who embezzled $806,000 were in the legal loop for years YEARS and the case wasn't thrown out in that case. What in hell is going on with the Judicial Branch of the Osage Nation? http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/04/19/thomas-eaves-appear-trial-court-second-degree-homicide-charges/ http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/09/22/osage-man-charged-second-degree-homicide-goes-free/
Their day will be reckoned with when the Osage who are right now rewriting the Osage Constitution and will take over this De Facto Government by way of a Constitutional Convention enough is enough. Time to end the status quo and put this Government back to the Osage People. All legally and by vote.
I'm telling you we need to file complaints against the licenses of the Osage Nation Judicial lawyers who are involved in this case and those two Osage Nation Supremes.
What in hell is right. The Supreme Court of the Osage Nation is in a managerial capacity over all Osage Courts under its jurisdiction according to the Osage Nation Constitution. Where is the managerial review on paper as to how the lower Osage Tribal Court is doing on this and a few other rulings and opinions? "Good luck, Mr. Eaves." I don't believe it but that's what Stepson actually said on the bench while in court to the defendant when he let him walk free. We are now moving on every front and with every branch of the Osage Nation government from travesty to catastrophe and that's the simple truth. This government does not represent me or my interests and that right there is the bedrock principle behind why this Osage government was created and what it should be doing.
When it happened --->>> http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/07/21/animated-map-shows-loss-western-tribal-lands-1784-124688 Only the Osage Nation government has taken the Osage Tribe's reservation away in Federal Court.
This is how it starts: McGraw-Hill destroys textbook to placate pro-Israel bloggers At one point in history, it was the same when people cried out, anti-Nazi bigots and they were left alone instead of taken to task. Israel has been appropriating land with illegal settlements on Palestinian land for decades. The U.S. supports this and it's wrong. The UN put in place the mandate and charter for Israel and they can damn well take it away. See land map here: http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/29/nov-29-1947-united-nations-partitions-palestine-allowing-for-creation-of-israel/?_r=0 See land map now: https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/mcgraw-hill-destroys-textbook-placate-pro-israel-bloggers Why does everyone who doesn't agree with the U.S. version of things tend to lose their shirts and the land they own and stand on?
Interesting that there is a closed-door meeting between the BIA and the OMC on the 27th, concerning a renewed attempt by the BIA to rewrite the CFR's. Producers not invited. Is this deja-vu all over again?
So...lets see what comes before we put the horse before the cart. I would hope if this would be the case, the MC wil convey to their producers said conversation or there of.
I here you poster @ 8:44 AM. I like to give the benefit of the doubt. Always been positive but not with a blind eye. My eyes always open and hoping. Long live the Osage Tribe and the only policy that is in perpetuity the 1906 act as amended the Law.
Yes. The producers managed to fight back and get the situation back in line with the help of the MC in court. I believe this was the same Judge who made the statement that the Osage Nation has no right to waive or abridge the rights of the Headright owners. The fact that the Osage Nation managed to talk the Court of Federal Claims Judge into believing that the Osage Shareholders had no standing to enter the HPP lawsuit was a direct and egregious violation of the 2004 Reaffirmation Act provision that reads verbatim, "...provided that the rights of any person to Osage mineral estate shares are not diminished thereby." The right to legally protect the personal property rights of the individual headright owner as it concerns the income coming from the Osage Mineral Estate Trust seems to me like that would be one of them. Oh, and in case it's in dispute that the Osage Nation is out there somewhere well beyond the pale, let me direct you to this phrase in the same Act, PUBLIC LAW 108–431—DEC. 3, 2004 118 STAT. 2609:
"(U.S.) Congress hereby reaffirms the inherent sovereign right of the OSAGE TRIBE to determine its own form of government."
There it is in black and white and that's the sum total of it. Again, just like with the Osage National Council government back in the 1990's, the BIA and the Secretary of the Interior grossly erred in not minding the store from a fiduciary standpoint for the Osage Tribe as a legal entity and the legal Osage members with headrights as beneficiaries because it should have caught this Osage Nation business as soon as the draft copy of the Constitution hit the street in January of 2006 and sent Hepsi, the Harvard Project and her band of merry interlopers on the OGRC right back to the drawing board. When will the BIA ever learn to play the game according to Hoyle? They all need a good legal course in what a fiduciary obligation means in such a relationship to a beneficiary or beneficiaries.
BTW, the horse is supposed to be before the cart... I want the producers involved in this CFR process because you saw what happened the last time out. It was a mess and it will be a mess again if they don't have a seat at the table. The Headright owners should also have a voice in this too because it's our income that is at stake. The BIA needs to broaden its base and listen. More regulations won't do any good anyway.
According to those at the meeting, Galen Crum is still living in a parallel universe. He keeps insisting that the CFR's, that were soundly trounced by Judge Frizzell, are a good thing. Crum needs to be put out to pasture!
That parallel universe you talk about, is reality is all a matter of perspective. Over regulation is not a good thing. Have you seen the true impact statement of said regs? If it can be proven that the ME can benefit from the New Regs as to not impede the process great. The Federal Government is challenged here because Congress is our Trustee. You can always predict if the BIA does not get this right we will be in court again. We have to change that because in the end the ME deserves better. Headright owners deserve better. Not Government and after all we are Sovereign we must look out for our interest.
The Congress is not our trustee. The Trustee of the OME is the Secretary of the Interior and the BIA is the administrator on the ground. This is per the provisions of the 1906 Allotment Act as amended. Where do you guys come up with some of this stuff? The U.S. Congress has the Plenary Power over all Tribal communities including ours. That means they're the top dog. SOI and the BIA are the guys that get what the U.S. Congress wants done per the legislation signed into law. In other words they put it into effect. If the BIA Osage Superintendent and the SOI could read at the time the new government was formed back in 2005/2006 and had done their due diligence, we wouldn't even be in this mess because the last Act associated with the 1906 Allotment Act was one of clarification and it clarified in writing that a new government for the Osage Tribe could be formed and additional membership chosen if the members of the Osage Tribe chose to do. Nothing was said about the Osage Nation anywhere in the Act.
I happen to agree with poster @ 11:05 AM. What we have is a De Facto Government and I can prove voter fraud happened as well. What we do is take back our Tribe the Osage Tribe ruled by the 1906 Act as amended long live the Osage Tribe.
Minerals Council Meeting tomorrow! The Agenda is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/3rd-osage-minerals-council-meeting-information-0
HEADS UP! Don't miss the Group Medicare Supplement insurance Plan F enrollment period going on now through November 30, 2016: http://www.tmkcdn.com/UA/UA_Group/GRP3209_OsageNation/GRP3209A/GRP3209A_1015.html For the Osage Nation Limited Health Benefit Card information see https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/member-services/health-benefits-information
If you already have an account for the Osage Nation Limited Health Benefit Plan Card, the 2017 Online Enrollment is available at https://maa-tpa.lh1ondemand.com
WindWaste is a non-profit organization dedicated to educating Oklahomans about the harmful effects of Industrial Wind. See http://windwaste.com/2016/08/29/industrial-wind-estimated-cost-oklahoma-5-2-billion/
According to the American Wind Energy Association, eight new industrial wind facilities came online in 2015 with 1,402 megawatts in rated capacity. Power purchase agreements for 57 percent of that capacity were with power companies selling electricity outside of Oklahoma. Not just that these companies who are building these turbines come from other countries as well. End the subsidies and they will not be able to stand alone.
Christmas shopping December 3, 2016 at the Osage Cultural Center with Santa! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1677547692560884&set=o.87889453996&type=3&theater
http://www.osagelanguage.com/ Thanks to Jim Ryan for pointing this important information out on his FB web page over here https://www.facebook.com/groups/234024393278360/
What do we think about this? Legalize Medical Marijuana In The Osage Nation https://www.facebook.com/Legalize-Medical-Marijuana-In-The-Osage-Nation-949709851808795/ Osages with nutritional problems, nausea when Zofran won't cut it and problems with even having hunger can benefit from Marinol.
Not just for that reason with responsible policy this can happen. It has actually helped so many people, diabetes, anxiety, sleep disorders,migraines you don't have to smoke it either. And you might as well legalize it for personal use, because people are doing it any way. Its a great resource to tax and one big factor creates jobs. From security to distribution. You can regulate it. And put restrictions, twenty one or older, seller must not sell with in so many feet of a school and so forth. Next packaging must be in the form of just like getting a prescription. We all know the true gateway drug is Prescriptions and never was Marijuana. All in moderation.
This is not mined altering compared to alcohol, alcohol impares your ability to see and mobility and make rational decisions Marijuana in most cases enhancee your ability. and you sound sorry but ignorant as I said its not Marijuana its everything else and above. Do your homework. Anyone who is a expert in this field can testify and education starts at home. I have successfully raised my children and always gave them the choice. Everything in moderation. It is you that is afraid of the unknown. You would actually see the complete opposite happen on the rez and around you for its calming affect and get this no side affects with kidneys and so forth. I just know to many positives to not say no. Reduces crime as well. Do you home work.
You are not going to stop those who are bent on hurting themselves with chemicals that are so mind altering. Wether it be meth or prescription, huffing. Where there is a will there will be a way weather here or there but do not insult the integrity of Marijuana based on a few meth heads or heroin addicts.
We're not discussing opening a commercial pot shop in the Osage. This is for controlled marijuana substances to be dispensed out of a pharmacy with a prescription. One of the Tribal communities in Nevada, the Paiute, is going in big time. "They partnered with a company called Ultra Health who's also in discussions with at least 20 other tribes in three different states who're considering using their sovereign nation status to get into the medical marijuana business." You snooze...you lose... http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/paiute-tribe-breaks-ground-on-medical-marijuana-facility This industry is just as hot as gaming right now and before the competition gets the jump on us, we need to look at this as a serious business proposition. We have to pay for that Bluestem Ranch land that will be nothing but a cash drain, the oil business is crashing and burning big time in the Osage and I'm not really certain if it has much of a future even if the Osage Nation did compact it. Despite warnings, the powers that be are still going ahead to put a hotel on another casino property and that is another huge cash drain on the primary business itself especially if it doesn't pay for itself. We have new buildings on campus to pay for, a language academy for toddlers that costs about $45,000 or more per child and the list goes on and on and on. If you can't think of ways to save and they can't, you have to find ways to pay for what you're spending. This is strictly business and it's a legitimate good paying business at the medical level.
We need to piggy-back off of this crowd draw starting on Monday: http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/10/25/pawhuska-merchants-brace-opening-pioneer-woman-mercantile/
The Osage could sell a million MJ plants in DC alone a year. With this type of revenue, a state of the art Osage Agency could be maintained and The Osage could safely go into the oil and gas business. That is just a start.
There are a lot of projects which can and should be done outside of Osage county under Osage jurisdiction.All which is needed is a United Osage,since it seems nothing else has been working except for our casinos.
An activity isn't under Osage jurisdiction if it's off the reservation. Even land held in trust by the BIA requires an agreement for cooperative enforcement. Without the existing cross-deputization agreement between the Osage, the BIA, and the State of Oklahoma the ON police wouldn't be able to enforce the laws except on a very small amount of land.
When a business ventures into the jurisdiction of another government it is bound by the laws where it conducts business. Foreign jurisdictions (even among the 50 states) rarely recognize claims of sovereign immunity as a protection against activities which are illegal within their jurisdiction. Individuals go to jail and businesses and the owners are fined under "little RICO" statutes.
Racketeer influence and corrupt organization. Hmmm. RICO. Not sure if that would apply. We are a Nation with in a Nation and we have a Government with in the Government recognized is our Sovereign to commerce and development without interference from the federal government. Or State of which we reside in. The tribal Marijuana Sovereignty Act, this will allow commerce without interference from the feds. This act will allow no federal funding restrictions to the Tribes.
In addition to my post the S.1984, the Keeping out Illegal Drugs act (KIDS Act), bars tribes that cultivate, manufacture or distribute marijuana from receiving federal funds. The Tribal Marijuana acts counteracts (Kids Act).
H.R. 5014 is the bill known as the Tribal Marijuana Sovereignty Act and it only applies "on lands held in fee by that Indian tribe, lands held in trust by the United States for the benefit of that Indian tribe, or lands conveyed to an Alaska Native Corporation pursuant to the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act".
Step one inch beyond the boundaries of the reservation or the lands to be covered by this new law and you're subject to both federal and state laws. I wouldn't count on this bill ever making it out of committee, as it is in conflict with not only KIDS but a number of other federal laws.
First we have no Reservation remember? Maybe metaphorically, second, its no different than the gun laws just beacuse you have a permit or license in one state does not give you carte blanche to travel and carry in another state. And those who are in the field know this. Good sound policies makes sense. This is the product of the future. Oopsie the future is here.
Good discussion here. If this is so forbidden, how are the Paiutes getting away with it? The Bluestem Ranch will be fee simple minus the mineral rights. There is already a move on to take that land into trust. This new baby has to pay for itself. That's all there is to it. Let me council you like Tom Hagen in the "Godfather": "Well, I say yes. There is more money potential in narcotics than anything else we're looking at now. If we don't get into it, somebody else will, maybe one of the Five Families, maybe all of them. And with the money they earn they'll be able to buy more police and political power. Then they come after us. Right now we have the unions and we have the gambling and those are the best things to have. But narcotics is a thing of the future. If we don't get a piece of that action we risk everything we have. Not now, but ten years from now." I'm with Tom on this one. The liberals will probably leave this alone. Oil and gas, they won't. The Clinton administration is all about regulation and Reince Priebus shot the GOP in the head this Presidential cycle when he agreed to let Trump inside the tent. The foundation of the whole problem is world over-population, the highest standard of living in history and the ultimate cost to the environment as a result of it. Read Dan Brown's book "Inferno". Not sure that this is even worth worrying about because they aren't telling us the full story about the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant meltdown of 2011 and the fact that they can't fix the problem onshore in Japan or stop all the nuclear contamination still pouring into the ocean and moving around in the ocean currents on on a daily basis.
First Marijuana is not a narcotic or even close lol. Labled only by the Feds list. And as I have related in a controlled environment it can work and is proving to work. Look abroad and how there programs are saving lives. We need to get on the bag wagon and really counter the real problems with meth, heroin, worse prescriptions over use of opiates, and education is where it starts. Maybe open up the Ranch as a renowned rehabilitation center. We can get federal funding all the while open up for hunting as part of the therapy bring our culture to a new height.
"When used in a legal context in the U.S., a narcotic drug is simply one that is totally prohibited, or one that is used in violation of governmental regulation, such as heroin or cannabis." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcotic Haven't heard of a bison hunt as part of any kind of rehabilitation program. Bareback on horse with spears or bow and arrows. That should be very interesting. Some of the Osages organizing the hunt are going to have to lose some weight or the hunters might become the hunted out in the field. Should make for some very curious video on Youtube in any event.
Enter...a good reason NOT to invest...'to see YOUR children, grand children, or great grand children be born ADDICTED to weed, which would likely impair their physical and mental functions FOR LIFE.' It's just not worth the risk.
So miss informed you are poster, then raise your children right. Yes, they will be exposed to all kinds of peer pressures in school especially with prescription drugs. EDUCATION starts at home. I am happy to say I have successfully raised mine to know the difference. Marijuana is on the ballot in 5 states to legalize for recreational use and should have been done years ago. It is not addictive and does not impair your vision infact does the complete opposite enhances your vision and you will never hear of someone getting pulled over for a DUI. No side affects. And does not affect your liver. so you keep telling yourself these lies eventually you will believe in them. All in time, all will be regulated 21 and older just like alcohol. So I guess they shoukd abolish that to baecause where there is a way there is a will right? We will be out billions, becuase the opportunity is now. Just wait and see. Look at Colorado and Oregon. Just an opinion and of course I understand not to many will understand because fear breeds fear of the unknown. Bottom line, educate yourself. Ican be regulated those who have a medical license will not be taxed those who use it for recreational it will be taxed. 21 or older. Get ready its coming.
Tests confirm Utah teens overdosed on new synthetic drug, the same drug found in Michael Jackson's home. Opioids 10 times stronger than morphine. Bought online. Its not Marijuana killing our children there's something way worse out there. EDUCATION starts at home.
I done tole you and tole you! "As Treasurer, Alexander said he would like to help streamline the accounting process, noting the Nation has over 150 programs “and that’s a mess frankly and it’s complicated and I think we can do better than that, make it easier on everybody.” http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/10/27/alexander-confirmed-treasurer-other-appointees-confirmed-one-denied/ Hahahahahahahaha! PAY ATTENTION HERE BUREAU OF INDIAN AFFAIRS! And the Executive Brnach of the Osage Nation thinks it can compact and run the OME? Get out of town! No way, no how.
How many of those 150 programs help the 80% or 15,350 of a total of 19,200 Osage Nation members who do not live in Osage County? T H R E E. Actually only T W O while you're still alive. #1 -- Health Card and Medicare Plan F (while you're alive). #2 -- Higher education (while you're alive). #3 -- Burial Assistance (actually benefits the family left behind after you're dead).
Right. End the conflict of interest and hiring all your family members as if they were cattle to be herded to other depts or another board. Cronyism stinks and so does the nepotism. Ah how mwny accountants had we had and did not streamline, really to easy to do and so easy to read. No excuse for laziness or incompetence.
Wind situation: Review: http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2015/10/16/nation-sets-hopes-case-oklahoma-supreme-court-oust-wind-farms/ Update: The Oklahoma Supreme Court has affirmed the Osage County District Court's ruling in the case
In this case its on private land and why are we fighting this, oh, the excavation fees. Pesona non grata is what I say to the Drummonds. It's always about the Benjamins right. I think we need to go further and go National just like NDAPL. Becuase I see no Federal Protection or intervention on behalf of the ME. And I see a pattern with the Drummonds as well. (sic)
I just love the word choice of this CNN e-mail blast: "Americans will cast their verdicts on Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump Tuesday after an exhausting, acrimonious campaign that at times revolted the nation and tore at its fabric." "Verdict" is succinctly right.
Tore at it's fabric of America is a understatement. "Verdict" is exactly right! Washington never seen before, exposed the FBI and the conflict of interest with Loretta Lynch. Ah ethics comes to mind. May the best man win. We will always be on heels of the door step of Washington no matter what, fighting for what we believe in guided by our Culture and faith. Long live the Osage Tribe.
Congratulations Trump.Yay...! :) Over 2000 regulations were passed in Obama's administration its time to kick to the curb the job killing regs..Good bye Gina McCarthy
Let this Trump win be an object lesson to the establishment in the Osage and a huge encouragement to all outsiders in the upcoming election in June of 2018 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My hat is off to Donald Trump for more reasons than just one.
My takeaway is that at least we have an honest and truthful election on the ground. I never in this world thought that Trump would carry the day and here is. This is good and we should all be grateful for that at the very least. Hillary gave a fabulous concession speech and for that I sincerely and greatly respect her.
In no way our election process is legal here, until the BIA monitors the process. And in my opinion Trumps success was predicted. We couldn't have a corrupt President for President. Just to many conflict of issues that would reshape America's politics had she become President. And the wau she put President Trump on defense the entire time was just ugly. From the media bias opps whats that like we don't have that going on with our Newspaper right? To the support she got from Hollywood trying to sway the Vote, really. Let them all move out og the USA as they said they woukd do. AMERICA HAS SPOKEN. AND THE OSAGE IS ABOUT TO HAVE THEIR MOVEMENT. I am a Osage woman and Hillary does not represent my values. Trump said some rough things I get it and I am for a woman President not this one maybe the Late Eloise Cobell would have been a better fit. Anybody but her.
MC Meeting information for today: Early meeting due to Veterans Day tomorrow: Agenda: https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/minerals-council-meeting-information-2 Listen on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsL10qd9TF0
In response to Nov. 10th, at 12:44 p.m. Thank you for the info. I have a good credit score, paid off 4 year car payment last spring just at the right time without being late any payment, now I have been trying to draft a letter to the credit companies telling them "sorry, no more payments for no telling how long?" Now I will send them a copy of the article and maybe look up some older articles about how it has affected the oil companies in the short notices the BIA gave them to pay up more money in penalities. Hate to do this, but I've been borrowing money from the family and am hurting them. I'm near 70, looks like no more credit for me. Now I'll have to deal with collectors. A few weeks ago I tried to borrow come money from my bank, it showed my bills were 84% of my income, I'll send a copy of that too!!!
In the article it kind of incenuates its the MC fault, it says "at the request of the MC." It skips over some details about their (BIA) short notice and what info was in it to the companies.
The earthquake in Cushing seems to say "it's not over yet." The super full moon is Nov. 14th, hope this passes without another e-quake? I heard on one of the Osages podcast interviewing GSB, and in it I remember him stating about the oil "and it's going away." I think I was the 5th podcast? Anyone interested I'll go find where I heard it.
Osageblogger at times when we access this site for what ever reason we had to refresh the page several times to be able to reply to the comment. Everytime we would hit reply it would not allow access for what reason I do not know. I would leave the page come back, refresh. This wasn't my comment though I thought I would share if you could find a problem on your ened to fix possibly.
Tell me your name so we can help you call the Nation...we shoukd not be letting our elder out there starving. I'LL SET UPMA FUND ME PAGE FOR YOU SIR or MAM. Its tuff out there folks.
To Nov. 15th, at 6:12 AM. Thank you for your concern but I'm not starving. But food cost is one of the reasons I had to stop paying some credit card bills. I feel less stressful in dealing with the credit card companies now that I've read an article in a magazine (see below). It shows I'm not a dead beat, and this article doesn't include what the: (1)Dept. of Interior has caused (overnight financial ruin to oil producers, stopping drilling, causing bankruptcies), not the BIA, the decisions come from higher authority (Interior); the Superintendent in Pawhuska probably has to get an approval and review for each solution submitted from the MC, 2) and then, the Sept. earthquake.
Too embarrassed to give my name after whining over some bills when there are families out there trying to feed their children/family as the Chairman (MC) mentioned in a recent meeting. The suffering and struggles will continue until these leases, permits, etc. start to jump in (a year??), and not considering any future big earthquake.
Two of my accounts are with Chase bank. I now feel I have a legal defense if I get sued? Below are quotes from MONEY magazine (March 2016) "...the collapse in oil is weighing on the company's outlook. J.P MORGAN CHASE set aside more than $550 million is loss reserves last year to cover bad loans it made to now-struggling energy firms. The bank says it will allocate another $750 million if oil stays around $30 a barrel for another 18 months."
second quote: "Crude-oil prices sank nearly 30% in the four weeks ended Jan. 20, to below $30 a barrel, raising fears that the global economy may be stalling out. As a result, economically sensitive sectors such as energy financials, and basic materials all suffered double-digit losses."
I do not need assistance to stay above water from the Nation, but I see on the Osage websites there are assistance programs for Osage members living in the county. It would be hard to understand if there are any children going hungry there.
Did you get the "New Tulsa casino/hotel" phamplet, "..2015, contributing over $47 million in distributions to the Osage Nation." Help thy neighbor, even if it's info to get assistance, there is most likely people who don't have internet or maybe not know how to use it. With all the incoming money the Nation gets, an outsider just wouldn't understand about all the bickering there is over money (budget), and how much money is "lost in investing," and then there is money "missing/stolen."
I understand and wishing you and yours a safe and Happy Thanksgiving. You will be in my thoughts and prayers as all my Brothers and Sister Osages. My eyes sees more than cares too at times, my eyes never closed, nor am I toned death, sweet whispers of wind talking like music in my ears nor am I blind to see without sweet whispers the smell of truth just begs to answer.
Trump has had some major issues with Indian tribes and casinos. I am not so sure he is the man we want for president. We have short memories. I believe it was Obama that allowed Cobell to progress.
Again, no fines or punitive action taken in most of the legislation signed into Osage law but an over-abundance of it in the Election Laws while the election board and the Supervisor tightens their grip on who gets to run for Office. Who are these people to determine who is a serious candidate to run for office? Who the hell do they think they are? Plus they don't want to send out certified mail to the candidates because it's a waste of money? What to only 16 people in the last election? Could they be more lazy or what? I can smell their laziness outside the bathroom from a mile off! Do your job or get out the way for someone who really cares about working as hard and as long as possible to make certain that we have a free and fair election come June of 2018. Buhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3rd Osage Minerals Council Special Meeting Agenda for November 21, 2016 at 10:00 A.M., is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/3rd-osage-minerals-council-special-meeting-0
Audio is now up for on demand listening for the meeting on November 16, 2016 at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/minerals-council/meeting-information
Of particular note which may make it even more difficult to run for Congress and jump through even more hoops that there are already: "Amendments to the Nation’s election code and rules/ regulations. The ON Election Board has developed proposed amendments to the two documents regarding the governing of elections." Special Session of the Osage Nation Congress on November 28, 2016 --->>>
With Oil prices sure to rise in the new year,depending on the agreement set forth by the 14 member, Opec meeting set for tomorrow, Saudi Arabia seems to be in play, yet to worry about Irans and Russia's output. Iran said they will keep the same output no more or less, and Russia has yet to agree to halt Rigs. Lets keep are fingers crossed. With that, Has the BIA's administration efficiencies been improved ie, processing permits? Have not heared from the producers as of late and their take in our News Letters would be a Highlight and keep the Shareholder's comprised k-no? Haven't heard much about the CFR'S and progress? And at this point where does the M.C. stand on this point thus far? We are coming into a New Year, the future is for us to see together not just the M.C. responsibility. And we should support them in their effort to fight the Wind Farms and is a proven fact if you live near them they will kill Bald Eagles and they will depreciate you and your property. Look if Trump doesn't want them around his property why should we be forced to accept when we have Mineral rights and the 1906 Act to support why we have a reason to fight. And mostly it is our Sovereign right. Long live the Osage Tribe and the 1906 Act as amended.
On Indianz.com -----Indians with Trump seek trust land changes. Dated Dec. 5th. Osages don't have a rez now, but we bought our land that many have sold. How much of the county is owned by Osages isn't much. This could get scary.
We have the power already, since by all appearances we are privatized by the 1906 Act. We have eight able bodies capable of recruiting, dispatching and expediting the administrative paper work at a beatneck pace, taking the Federal dollars away from the BIA and applying the funds to generate a more efficient and removing any threat of more delays creating fluid processes eliminating redundancies. Less Government remember, just take one look at the waste in ours. And this is why we are different from the other Tribes we own the interest and our Trust is in the hands of the U.S. Congress and just because does not give the right to discriminate against, our interest should always be regarded and not targeted, not even by the Nation.
If the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 had been allowed to run its course then all tribes would have been dissolved, all reservations disestablished, and all land privatized in June of 1959. It was never the intent of Congress to have subordinate sovereign entities continue on indefinitely.
In fact, the modern policy of keeping Native Americans dependent on the federal government is in large part responsible for the on-going poverty among the tribal communities.
Yes, 1.475 million acres were privatized in 1906, and given to the individual tribal members. After 100 plus years, it is almost all gone, 160 acres at a time. Now we have next to nothing, except for the mineral estate. If the mineral estate is privatized, then it is all over. The BIA, with all of it's inefficiency, is far better than that.
We are different. Because we are not apart of the Public sector. The M.E. is owned by 5000 Head Right owners. Royalties divided and distributed accordingly. And that is a fact. And this is why I ask why are we where we are at still at square one. Time to make a difference is now, not tomorrow. The interest of the M.E. is in the hands of eight council members and we could be moving and doing so much to further the interest of the M.E. albeit the regulations. The 1906 Act was and is here only to protect that interest, not to be micro managed by a defunct agency and all of its regulations that has stagnated our growth. The 1906 Act was the beginning of and not the end of. We are in the 21st Century with a New President and we are headed for a boom and we have to be smart and most importantly, prepared. We need hands on the ground a office of compliance, we need to monitor and micro manage our M.E. we need to be promoting for growth. We need a operating office not the BIA. Don't get me wrong the BIA can follow up on our drive to strive. We need to streamline. The 1906 Act was a beginning and still is alive and well. We must do what it takes to maintain that wellness. We need to create that volume of competitiveness all the while maintaining the relationships we have with our home grown producers and build new relationships and stay in the Know for accountability and transparency. Why did it take two years to communicate with the headright owners? Where are the PID invoices that each one of us shoukd have copies of? And yes I own wells in Texas. I have ran many a business and this is no way to run a multi-billion estate. Where is the standard set by the Council members? Where is the foundation? Other than the 1906 Act?
The income from the Osage Minerals Estate is what is owned by the Shareholders after it has been collected and placed in the Federal Trust Account. The income begins its ownership with the Osage Tribe before it's taken into Trust. Read the 1906 Allotment Act and ALL of its Amendments! The standard is set by the BIA with the members of the Minerals Council as nothing but figureheads who can't even finally approve a lease or anything else for that matter. That final approval lies with the BIA Superintendant. Don't put out such disinformation here. It's nothing but wrong and has no basis in Federal law and it prevails no matter how convoluted this Osage Nation government spins its yarn into a total mess of false information.
There is no disinformation here. And I am fully aware what does and the meaning of the 1906 Act is and I understand probably better than you all the way down to how the BIA was created. How ever you dice it slice it it still comes down the the M.E is owned by the Headright owners and we are not apart of the public sector. We can in many ways work in the interest of and we don't need naysayers but when opportunity presents itself as we are in a position to do and be pro-active. Whether you like it or not PC is out.
The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is promulgating new regulations to reduce waste of natural gas from venting, flaring, and leaks during oil and natural gas production activities on onshore Federal and Indian (other than Osage Tribe) leases. The regulations also clarify when produced gas lost through venting, flaring, or leaks is subject to royalties, and when oil and gas production may be used royalty-free on-site. These regulations replace the existing provisions related to venting, flaring, and royalty-free use of gas contained in the 1979 Notice to Lessees and Operators of Onshore Federal and Indian Oil and Gas Leases, Royalty or Compensation for Oil and Gas Lost (NTL-4A), which are over 3 decades old.@ http://www.indianz.com/News/2016/12/06/lakota-country-times-new-rule-curbs-wast.asp
Just seen on CNBC that Trump has chosen Scott Pruitt, Atty. General of Oklahoma, to be Head of the EPA. It say he is currently a critic of the EPA, sounds encouraging. With the Dakota Pipeline campers staying to see what Trumps decides to do with the recent Army Corp. of Engineers decision, I wonder if Trump will have some representatives of the camp go to Washington to talk with him, OR -- send the new Head to talk with them at the camp area?? Whatever Trump does, either re-route the pipes or reverse the latest decision will show us what to expect from Trump in future negative on-comings for the indigenous peoples
Cannot reply. To poster 12:51 pm Yes what a pick. He is known, Scott Pruitt is a businessman and public servant and understands the impact regulation and legislation have in the business world, And I know as well as many other Osage Headright Owners felt it below the waste when the Permitting process nearly came to a halt in 2014. Bad policies by the EPA. Had everyone done the diligence we would not be where we are at today. Know your rights. I do. Talk about an agency stepping over boundaries all in the name of there green agenda. Good riddance Gina McCarthy.
In regards to the M.C. fighting the wind farms get a cost analysis report on how much money one of these turbines cost and the savings? Monthly, daily and so forth. Huge very ugly windmills prevent enjoying the beauty of many western states. The joy of driving through many once scenic areas is now ruined and birds are being slaughtered by lethal wind turbines installed in their breeding territories. The death toll on all birds and bats is in the millions per year and rapidly rising. California’s Altamont Pass wind “farm” has already killed at least 3,000 Golden Eagles. Adding insult to injury, the cost of wind power is costing taxpayers and ratepayer and extra $10 billion/yr and that cost is growing exponentially. After more than two decades of huge government investments, wind is still generating less than 5% of the electrical power in the United States.
Wind farms. It seems to be the era of "green energy." From watching TV, wind turbines are being set up from coast to coast and in-between. Out in the ocean somewhere near San Diego, wind turbines are in the water (weighted down). Out on the east coast there's soon to be an auction or bid thing going on to put them near or on the water. Trump is for wind farms. It looks to be this is just starting "big time." I wouldn't be surprised if wind farms end up on Blue Stem Ranch through "overreach by the government," and "eminent domain." Isn't it June 1st or July 1st the state of OK will still be paying the wind farms incentives way into the future if a new bill isn't passed?
Hey, California, are you shaking? Pretty strong one, 8.0 M. It's calmed down in Okla. since they've shut oil wells down and stop some injections. Hope all you are okay.
So, when all the money comes due, will the Osages be able to hide behind the Corporate/Government veil or will the creditors be able to sue each and every elected official involved over the last ten years individually and severally who has approved by vote and signature, including the Chiefs past and present, for all this negligent spending without actually knowing how much they have to spend overall and in particular on servicing all this debt they are taking and have taken on in the past?
The elected officials pledged assets of the Osage Tribe. Should it come to collecting a debt over non-payment the creditors will look to foreclose on those assets. In cases where sovereign immunity was waived, there will be no viable defense. The only way to go after the elected officials is for fraud, and then only if they exceeded their lawful powers.
It is good to think about the end result of taking on too much debt. Too bad the elected officials didn't give it good thought.
To Dec. 9th, 2:54 pm, can you please be more specific about the pledged assets. What assets? and What designated creditors (Federal agency? Private loan?). The elected officials are members of the Nation, they are not the "Nation." We are all members and owners of the said assets. Maybe the description "thief" is more descriptive than the word "fraud." It's like coming home and the collectors are carrying out your TV and refrigerator.
Look what happened to social security. Is the future generation going to come up short because of present decisions? Let's keep sight of the recent monies designated for the upcoming new technology of the MC, it involves and affects each and everyone of us and those that will follow.
To poster 4:29 pm. They cannot pledge the M.E. It is owned by the Headright owners and a protected asset. So I to say what asset, the park, airpark, Bluestem Ranch, the mound?
It's been going on from the beginning. I believe that it's collusion on the part of both the Executive and the Congress where they talk a big game about such tight budgeting that not one cent can be dropped off, altered or otherwise or the world will come to a end. Raymond Red Corn is the point man on this just like he's been for many years, even while he was in the Congress. Even though he lived away for many years, now that he lives back home it's a totally different story. He's the water boy for all who live back home who think those who live away deserve nothing from the proceeds of the income made by the Casinos and other income sources like the taxes generated by the Osage government. Most, if not all of them, think that if you don't vote in the elections then that makes your membership in the Osage Nation worthless where getting any benefits are concerned from their point of view. One even said to me within the last number of years during a conversation that one man from Barnsdall had called him about benefits and he countered by asking him what he did as an Osage or as a Nation member to even deserve such benefits! They are all like this to one degree or another. If those of us who keep an eye on things weren't minding what they are up to there would be no benefits for all of us but important people are following what is going on here at the Osage Blog and our total member numbers can't be used unless benefits are provided to all of us and this was shared with me in a bitter tone of voice by one of the elected members of Congress. To that I say G-O-O-D! Why should we who live outside Osage County be used to pad the Federal funding they get if we don't see any benefits coming from Tribal income? They can't see this though and as a result, they pad the budgets with at least $2 million to $5 million a year which they drop into an account they call the Permanent Fund at the end of every year which is supposedly to be used for direct benefits to the Osage membership. Then they turn around and use the money, $30 million or so, as collateral to get loans to benefit them for new buildings on Campus or expansion for the Osage Casinos with hotels that don't pay what they are initially advertised to pay out as a return on investment, this abomination of a purchase known as the Bluestem Ranch that will never pay a return on investment the way GSB has it set up to do and a ranch for the education of the Osage Children and whatever all else is being flown as economic development justifying the use of gaming proceeds which it does not and never will under the current scheme.
Building a hunting lodge and letting some banking buddy of his make money on a verbal lease which is money for hunting fees that the Osage government tax authority should be realizing, not some rich banker to float our loans that tie up the money in the permanent fun that should be and should have been all along made available to all of us in a per capita payment even if it's just a $250.00 Christmas Bonus for the membership yearly. Selfishness reigns with these people and they go through a lot of convoluted maneuvers to keep most of the money for themselves to spend on themselves exclusively if they live in Osage County. There is now a move on to overthrow this new government with a new Constitution to throw out those who don't live back home in Osage County. Meanwhile, the Osage Government now has full control of the Casinos and I'm hearing locally at the Tulsa Casino that the employees aren't making any money because they don't get the pay and bonuses they used to because the Osage government has taken all that away from them and the morale there among those employed is at an all time low. I knew the minute GSB got his hands on the Casino business by getting the board to approve his son-in-law to become the CEO of the Osage Casinos that those greedy Osages in the government would go right after the operating capital and the first place they would go would be the compensation of the Casino employees. When they all walk off the job and there is no one to open the Tulsa Casino and probably all of the rest of them too, don't be surprised. You read it here first. Keep that in mind when these jerks start running down the "Red Blog" right here at the Osage Blog. Keep doing what you're doing Osage Blog. You are needed in a huge way these days.
If in fact this is true Congress needs to convene and get the committee to investigate if this true someone is making bank thru the back door. Pay to play, the end is here. And it will stop. Yes I have my eye on the players and that water boy is on the list. Crony capitalism.
Thats just plain fear mongering about the status of someones membership it would take an act of Congress in our case to eliminate a Osage. We are different but a one page rewrite of the Constitution is in our future and the movement is getting closer to making the reality true. Just takes signatures. What we the Osage, the little Osage and big Osage understand the sickness that has found its way in our Government, Greed and the debt. Was not supposed to happen but it has and now we pull the reigns. Full on Osage Constitution rewrite.
Without the burden of you if you don't live in Osage County. Be careful what you wish for and we do have much to fear especially since we're shareholders. If you are and don't live back home in the Osage, you'll be just as out on your hind end like the rest of us. Where do you live, BTW?
December 12, 2016 at 1:55 PM Congress is in collusion. Did you miss that point? What are they going to do? Convene and investigate themselves? They are now trying to legislatively set up another fund or account to park this last years over-budgeted left over unspent money in and at least one member of Congress is calling it the "Permanent Fund II." This needs to go before the AG but I doubt she will do anything to clean it up because she's been in place for some time and should know what's going on around there by now. File a complaint with her and see if it goes anywhere. It can only be an ethics complaint which is strange to begin with. If it does not fall within that purview, she can't look at it. Where complaints on the part of the membership of the Osage Nation, the elected officials have tons of leeway to do exactly what they want as long as it can't be found to be unethical. I suppose even commit criminal offenses like fiscal malfeasance and aiding and abetting fiscal misappropriation. Apparently from what I am given to understand. The Executive Branch is now taking money from one entirely separate budget for a department or office or the like and transferring money from another entirely separate budget for a department or office or the like and the Congress know full well what is going on. If that's not willful neglect of duty, I don't know what is. I believe that the Judicial Branch is in there too by ruling that the Congress can't interfere because it's in violation of the separation of powers. Any form of fiscal crime can take place I guess as long as the Osage Congress doesn't attempt to legislatively interfere. The FBI should be called in to sort this mess out but I doubt that they will go anywhere near it even though gaming money is likely being spent for things that probably violate the NIGA. This is what happens when ignorant people take on way more than they can handle and run like hell with it. Nobody is going to put these people in a jail cell which is exactly where many of them belong. Attorneys are required by law to report violations of the law and conduct unbecoming to the Oklahoma Supreme Court and the Oklahoma Bar Association but that hasn't happened yet and probably never will. It's hopeless. I had so much hope that they would straighten up their act after they threw out Chief Red Eagle but I now think that was all a ploy to get him out of the way to make room for point man GSB who will continue to further the ONO agenda that has been back of this Osage Nation scheme from the very beginning.
GSB gave a verbal agreement to non Osages to hunt on the Bluestem Ranch. These non Osages are conducting the doe hunt for the youth. If you have questions about any of this call the Chief's Office.
Shareholders have nothing to fear but fear itself...nothing that is happening today hasn't been already tried and tried and sliced and diced still comes out the same, we own the M.E. Not that the Nation can intervene ever, anyother action would be hostile to the Osage Tribe recognized time after time in Court of opinion, in regards to the meaning of what we are represented by, the 1906 Act as amended. Set up so to advert corruption. Into perpetuity and if we were to make any changes to the document would make everything else null and void including the Nation. No your rights. The precedent has been set.
Actually, according to this article: "The casinos have guaranteed the loan for the purchase of the Bluestem Ranch in Osage County.” Great! What happens to the Casinos if they default on the loans? The bank owns the Casinos? http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/12/13/gaming-enterprise-board-releases-2015-annual-report/
Oil is at $51.50 a barrel. I am a year late on my prediction not bad given the price per barrel is on the rise how are we doing in our back yard? And how is our latest technology working for us? Do we have the engineer's that BIA promised 4 years ago working for the agency?
I would like to know how the latest technology is developing, I'm really excited about it, I also wish the MC would acknowledge their progress in the newsletter. By the way, anyone get one this quarter?
At present, we have only one of those new engineers promised? Last I heard in a MC meeting is that he had gone off to training and then was coming back to the Osage for on-the-job training?
On CNBC yesterday afternoon (Tues.) that four other countries are going to cut back daily productions. Don't remember who they were. I'll search the internet.
Bound and determined to spend money no matter what! Does it make you feel better, this obsession you indulge? There is nothing happening in the Osage because the BIA and the EPA have shut it down with all these regs they have taken on for no good reason and to the severe harm and detriment of the trust beneficiaries otherwise known as the headright owners. There is no yearly convention with the oil and gas producers paying for and participating in and putting on a token one at one of the Osage casinos won't bring business back. The Osage has dried up for new business and the only ones who should be talking with an attorney now are the shareholders who have suffered so much loss of income due to all these regs that the BIA took on over a lawsuit that was dismissed. Don't expect anything and don't be fool enough to think any money should be thrown at this to satisfy your foolish insistence on a running office for oil and gas by the Minerals Council. If you can think using reason and logic, try and do so now.
Indianz.com Dec. 8, 2016. "Bureau of Indian Affairs opens door to big shift in tribal economies."
Federal Register Notice Dec. 9, 2016 (TRADERS WITH INDIANS), a proposed rule by the Indian Affairs Bureau seeking feedback, comments must be submitted on or before April 10, 2017.
QUOTE: "The Department has received numerous proposals from various Tribes pertaining to Indian Trader regulation. Many off these proposals suggest that trade regulated under part 140 should include not only commercial activities, but also mineral and energy development and any form of natural-resources extraction or agriculture."
QUOTE: "The current Indian Trader regulations were promulgated in 1957, revised in 1965, and modified in a piecemeal fashion. The current regulations largely reflect policies that ignore self-determination and the growth of Tribal economies."
QUOTE: "(6) Trading means buying, selling, bartering, renting, leasing, permitting any other transaction involving the acquisition of property or services."
QUOTE: "The Department is interested in receiving feedback on how revisions to the trade regulations could facilitate economic activity in Indian Country and tribal economic self-sufficiency."
Saw that the alarms failed to warn. Something went wrong. In any case this will be investigated to the tune of when in fact it is how redundant and costly. I believe this pipe is older than 60 years. More like 66 yearr. Corrosion happens at 60 years depending. Thats a good record though environmentalists will tell you it isn't. Weather this happened by rail, train, shipping etc.... Where are the engineer's by the EPA, ARMY CORE OF ENGINEERING and the Corporate checking on these pioelines that are aging? What are they getiing paid for? Next excuse no man power, get on it and start hiring is what I say. Hate excuses you know everyone has one.
Taking a break to set up for a presentation by the Oklahoma Secretary of State and the Secretary of the Environment as well...should be back online soon at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/multimedia/live-media
SoS is going on about the Arbuckle formation and 1000 wells affecting it. Isn't the Arbuckle formation located at the bottom of the State of Oklahoma? https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2010/1123/downloads/Report/OF10-1123.pdf
SBG: Where are we on this and why weren't we involved and included in this National water rights bill? http://www.indianz.com/News/2016/12/13/oklahoma-tribes-win-approval-of-water-de.asp
Patricia Sperier Brite suing the M.C for the financial records yes! Its about time. I have been asking where are money is goibg and how it is being used. One millon a year is the drawdown we have every right to know how our money is working for us...or not. Thank you..change is coming. @ osagenewscom
I thought the MC budget was submitted to the Osage Nation Congress for appropriation. Are you saying that this budget isn't available for public shareholder review? If that's true, no wonder PSB is getting legal. Interesting.
It seems that Gentner is up to no good again. See the Erwin opinion: https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/sites/default/files/images/2016-1215_3OMC_Erwin-Opinion-web.pdf
Tremors generated by oil and gas hydraulic fracturing – or “fracking” – are usually a million times weaker than the felt seismicity threshold, typically measuring minus 2 (below zero) on the Richter scale. This is why over two million wells have been fracture stimulated worldwide since the 1940s without creating earthquake hazards. Time to get some good lawyers from the industry and stop his continued assult on the M.E. once and for all. And the BIA what are they doing to stop this rediculous claim?
Why isn't Jim Ryan timely on his FB site about the Chief hiding the salaries from either the Osage people or the NIGC or both? I'm hearing rumors of $100,000 plus and benefits on top of that for those who work for the Chief not disclosed on the Office of the Chiefs budget to the Congress. Even the Judicial Branch came forward and gave support documentation to the Congress to justify the costs and the salaries. Chief is using the Supreme Court decision to hide what these people are being paid and we have a right to know. Jim is always up to speed on his site and he has a big Osage outreach. Yancy Red Corn is up to date with his FB site and Jeff Irons is leading the charge other than that nitwit who doesn't seem to know that this is a government in service to and for the Osage people and is calling the Congress and the Osage people's right to know petty about what these salaries are in these budgets. Nice try but NOT! We have needed to keep a eye on these people who work for this government since they put it into effect and began treating the money in the Osage Nation's Treasury like it's a Pirate's treasure chest. Chief, you don't like that we don't like what you are paying these people who rarely if ever are there to answer the phone or return a phone call or are rude to you when they do, stop paying them so much money. Can't wait to throw you right out on your hind end come the next election. What a stunning disappointment you have turned out to be overall.
ReplyDeleteIf you thought the Executive Branch and the Chief has been acting weird lately. Here is another reason to continue with that opinion. They Executive Branch just delivered 23 boxes of documents to the Congress due to the recent subpoena. These are letter size file boxes and it took 4 men to carry them in to the Congressional office. Can you picture this? I imagine videos of the delivery were being taken..............Here's the weird part: Each box contained no more that 5 or 6 letter size papers and some of those were copies of the subpoena. This will be just some of the Standing Bear legacy.
ReplyDeleteI guess he's being vindictive? Childishness is more like it. When are we going to have mature adults and not creeps and stinkards in the highest office in the Osage Nation?
DeleteBoxes and boxes as empty as the promises Geoffrey has made the Osage people.
DeleteThis not good and bad for business oh thats right our Government doesn't create stability the people do the Government spends your money and doesn't have to acvout for it or follow the law. Sound familiar? ��
DeleteAccount sorry.
DeleteThat has to be the most insulting action against a Legislative Branch that I have heard of in quite some time. Clearly we must have legislation similar to 2 U.S.C.A. § 192, enacted by the U.S. Congress in 1938, that defines Contempt of Congress and places penalties under the law for violating it. See https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/contempt_of_congress
DeleteCongress has the authority to hold a person in contempt if the person's conduct or action obstructs the proceedings of Congress or, more usually, an inquiry by a committee of Congress.
DeleteContempt of Congress is defined in statute, 2 U.S.C.A. § 192, enacted in 1938, that any person who is summoned before Congress who "willfully makes default, or who, having appeared, refuses to answer any question pertinent to the question under inquiry" shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and subject to a maximum $1,000 fine and 12 month prison term.
This would be the Osage Nation Congress for legislation on an inter-branch basis. The Federal statute doesn't cover what happens with our sovereign government.
DeleteIsn't this the shareholders blog only? All this stuff going on in our congress is nothing new, they just thro Osage money to everyone except the Osage People. But I thought this was for the MC and our problems. And we have plenty. Is the Fletcher case dead?
ReplyDeleteThe Fletcher case is alive and well. My guess as I have said is the Federal Government is stalling. My guess they don't have 20 years of accounting and cannot accoount where and how and who are responsible for our money. The Federal Government should already have our accounting in order after all how was Cobell case resolved. Gc services already did the accounting for the Government.
DeleteI know, and I am indulging this during the Congressional regular sessions because this is when legislation appears which may impact the Mineral Estate. Leasing on Osage Nation land is the subject of legislation, the Chief putting his toe in the water about salaries pertinent to the Office of the Chiefs being hidden in this budget that may lead to similar non-disclosures of salaries and benefits of the MC should the Osage Nation take over the running of the Osage Minerals Estate and so on and so forth. Being bled dry by a whole new bureaucracy for the OME is of interest to the Shareholders and if it isn't then it certainly should be.
DeleteIf the Chief wants to go toe to toe we can look to the justice system which we find ourselves in this endless battle with our government needs to end once and for all. We either get off our duffs and do something about this unethical behavior which I hope does not set the precedent for future Chiefs if thats the case I will run for Chief and change will come where we can he proud of our Chief and end the endless roundtable of division and build respect. Long over due. You know the sayin just because you can doesn't mean hou should? Our Chief looks like he's been doing a lot of can. Accountability is so elementary and yet we our witnessing someone who is entitled to undermine what Congrees is to do at task and follow the OSAGE constitution and most importantly to do what the Osage expects of him to stop protecting the self interest at the expense of his constituency. We all are aware of the cost of living in and around the surrounding area if the salries are up there then we need to reign in the Executive. And if the Cheif were to try and take the responsibilities from the MC we would have him in Court and have him remo ed it would be in direct conflict of the shareholder's interest.
DeleteLisa you already have my vote!
DeleteThank you.
DeleteAgain we hear that the Congress cares about us and yet it was far more than just the Office of the Chiefs budget that was not justified, disclosed or supported with documentation to the Congress this go round. When you submit numbers on a budget and you start moving it around indiscriminately, AFTER APPROVAL OF THAT BUDGET AND THE APPROPRIATION HAS BEEN MADE, you are committing a crime known as fiscal misappropriation. Not letting our elected representatives know where the money is supposed to be going doesn't change that fact. The Judicial Branch has come out with an opinion in writing that the Executive is taking to mean that no justification to the Osage Congress is now even necessary and that they can move money around any way they like. In ever other community where there is a government with a budget associated with it, such a set of circumstances is known as a budgetary catastrophe. All the lawyers associated with this disastrous situation must be investigated and diciplined by the Oklahoma Supreme Court and the Oklahoma Bar and that includes the Chief, the lawyers he has on staff who are advising him and the two female justices of the Osage Nation Supreme Court. The Osage Congress has passed out these budgets without a proper due diligence as representatives of the Osage people with the exception of Congreswoman Shannon Edwards. If you care about this Osage government, you must take action. You must get in touch with the Osage Attorney General to make your demands known that this kind of fiscal misappropriation, non-disclosure and lack of due diligence on the part of the Chiefs and the guilty members of the Osage Congress is unacceptable. We know what is part and parcel of good governance and what is not and we must take action to stop this situation right in its tracks. We are not reinventing the wheel here. We are not so set apart that we can tolerate a system of corruption and misappropriation to take place as an institutional precedent. If the AG refuses to act, then she too must be added to the list for investigation, review and dicipline at the Oklahoma State level. In any case, this has gone too far and no elected official engaging in this situation be they the Chief, the members of the Osage Nation Congress or the two Justices of the Osage Nation Supreme Court should ever be reelected by the members of the Osage Nation. AND I MEAN EVER AGAIN!
ReplyDeleteUnreal I expect to hear from each and everyone in Osage Congress except Ms.Edwards why they literally passed a blind budget? What Government does this without the diligence and oath that they took to uphold our Constitution. I cannot fathom or wrap my head around this. Man now look what they did hear we go right into Court. Unbelievable. I will be making calls as well. If this doesn't stink of a corrupt Government.
DeleteAnd its all in the minutes. Powerful evidence. How could Congress make it so simple.
Delete"Edwards said her “no” votes are due to the budget requests submitted by the Principal Chief’s office without support documentation to support those requests and newer updated budgets submitted in early September as well."
Deletehttp://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/10/06/congress-passes-budgets-chief-standing-bear-vetoes-five-bills/
This is so unbelievable that you won't be able to wrap your mind around it! Take a look at these numbers that the Chief is complaining about not getting enough money this go round. 10 years ago the previous Osage tribal government was run on a drawdown of ONE MILLION BUCKS ALL IN!
DeleteKeep in mind that these numbers are for the Executive Branch alone and do not include that for the Legislative and Executive Branches that are into the hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars too.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/osagenation-nsn.gov/files/Executive/First-Analysis-FY17-Appropriations.pdf
Note the amounts that are requested by the Executive Branch and add up the totals for the salaries and wages and then add the employee benefits.
Just over $28 million for the programs in the divisions where half or more of the totals listed are for office and administration costs not money that goes out to directly benefit you and your families.
Then you look at the totals of $31,500,000 for the employees (530 at last count) in salaries, wages and benefits who rarely answer the phone, return a phone call or when you finally do get them on the phone, are rude or behave as if they're too busy to talk to you. Now, in your opinion, do these people deserve, as those who are there to serve the Osage people who rarely if ever do, a merit performance total bonus of $405,051? Meanwhile we go without and they are still shoveling by the truckload now mind you, dollar bills at one another to the detriment of all of us who are Osage Nation members who are not young, not old and who are not going to college or university. Can you even begin to try to come to understand how the Chief could even have the shockingly entitled attitude to think that in his supreme dueness that he has the right to an additional $1,813,963 in total? People, we have an absolute duty to get rid of the like of such as Geoffrey StandingBear and Raymond Redcorn come in 2018. This must come to a stop and we are going to have to come up with a written pledge that we must have signed by all of those who we elect to stop this hideous and heinous greed within our government. Just because they have the money doesn't mean they have to give it one another who work for the Osage Nation.
http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/10/14/congressional-speaker-pratt-delivers-report-tzi-zho-session/
DeleteThere is a misunderstanding among the Osages. We have two entities: The Osage People and the Osage Government. The government owns the casinos and whatever capital ventures it controls. The government owns the revenue of these enterprises. The government is going to spend the revenue on itself and those that control the purse strings. The Osage people do not own the casino revenue thus, the revenue is not the people’s money.
ReplyDeleteWe the people are merely Osage members by decree of a signature since 2006. Yet, the Osage people have no say when congress determines the budgets. Running a government cost money and it needs to spend all it’s revenue because if there is a surplus the people will be expecting a per-cap from the generated revenue. The Osage government cannot allow a per-cap because once started it cannot end lest politicians reap the ire of the people. It is best for the Osage government to keep expectations low for the people so that it may concentrate in growing its own bureaucracy.
The Osage Nation government was never truly intended to serve the Osage people. It was created to control the gaming revenue, capital ventures and property….including the Minerals Estate. The Osage people believe that the Osage government is broken. The truth is that the government is performing as exactly intended. The government does not control the heritage, the history, nor the people at large - nor does it intend to because there is no profit in such matters.
Can the Osage people rise up and demand a better government? Yes, but the politicians want to keep the status quo by keeping voter turn out low. And only those with a vested interested in governmental affairs will vote certain members into elected position. How else do believe that the same unpopular people keep getting reelected and people of questionable character get into office?
I think you need to read the Constitution of the Osage Nation. The gaming money absolutely belongs to the Osage people whether they have a headright or not. This government has been taken over by greed driven officials who either want to lavish the money on those who work for the government, those they are related to or those they know or a combination of all three for the purpose of staying in office year after year. You can make this up as you go along but you are dead wrong in your assumption that the only Osages who have a right to the gaming proceeds are those who work for the government. There is a Federal law that is supposed to see to it that the money benefits the membership of any Tribe with gaming proceeds and it's known as the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act. Improving the economic situation of only those who work for the Osage Nation is not the extent of it. To prove to you that the Osage people are unsatisfied with the governance they have had in the past from the Osage Nation Congress you have only to look at the last election results in June and the number of undervoted ballots. 1,990 Osage members voted in total and of that total, 1,422 Osages undervoted their ballots meaning that they voted for less than six candidates. This constitutes 72.5% of those who voted marked their ballot with less that the number of choices they had available to them. If this isn't as strong a no-confidence vote and as strong a message as can be sent to our elected officials this has got to be it. The inappropriate and unfair way they overwhelmingly spend the money on the government itself by their Congressional votes to appropriate the money as members of the Osage Nation Congress is the top ranking complaint of all with Osage Nation constituents across the board.
DeleteSee https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/what-we-do/elections
Deleteand http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/06/13/election-board-conduct-recount-2016-election-june-15/
I am trying to be nice but every once in wnike you get the feeling someone is always thinking some of us was born yesterday. ��
DeleteAs of 2015, roughly 7% of the total population of the USA is employed by the Federal government. If you run the numbers, roughly 2% of the Osage Nation members as of January 2015 were employed by the Osage Nation government. The budget numbers to pay for these employees is roughly $31,500,000 of a total of $52,000,000 in total tribal funds available. Thats 60% of all tribal funds available. Of the trillions of dollars spent on the Federal Budget, there is no way that 60% of the total goes toward salaries, wages and payroll taxes. This Osage Nation government is eating us alive and all of the benefits we all could be enjoying if these people were paid commensurate with what they should be paid in real world terms for the area surrounding Pawhuska, Oklahoma. The Osage Nation Congress to this day protests that they don't how much they really have to spend because the number keeps changing from day to day. Every year we get the promise that they will get it right the next time but they have had 21 Regular Sessions involving budgets or adjusted budgets with additional spending since this new government was formed in 2006. When are they going to get this right and when are they going to stop paying for employees who are either unnecessary or who don't do a good job for the Osage Nation people?
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DeleteWhen the Congressional trial was taking place to oust Chief Red Eagle, one of the witnesses was asked about her employment situation. She stated that she was the sixth level of management up above the entry level in her Division. WTH are we doing with 6 management levels in any one Division of the Osage Nation government anyway? This is all fodder for keeping the gaming funds inside Osage County and not outside of it. This, in part, accounts for why salaries and wages are so exorbitant for the Executive Branch as shown right here:
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Everytime I read, what is going on here, I go back to HR 2912 and its meaning and this is what I have to say. In my opinion a few decided for the Majority and the DOI falied hugely to monitor our elections. Not just that we were a Government established already this act was to allow for more membership , to give them a right to vote in our election process and would allow them to receive benefits from the federal government and instead decided to form this de facto Government all so they can control with their inflated salaries to exist all you have to do is chase the money right. Sound familiar, Hillary anyone? What a stinking crock of spoiled berries. We see the writing on the wall. We want a smaller Government if we dont get one we will and I mean we will do a one page rewrite of the Constitution and all of you will be put on notice so say I or we will bring this house of cards back to the original state to the MC. We can right the wrong with one phone call Mr. Redcorn. Your feel good stories printed in the Osage News has no meaning. Just thought you should know.
DeleteIf you read my commentary from a bureaucrat's point of view, you will see the sarcasm of the dialog. My point is to show the perspective of those who seek power to control all things Osage while ignoring the very resource it claims to serve. The Osage government (politicians) will serve itself (and themselves) first and the people at a distant second. We can have all the constitutional laws we want but of what use are they if the the laws are ignored?
ReplyDeleteI get that you were being sarcastic. For the sake of those who work for the Osage government, I made this clarification because many if not most actually do believe that the money belongs pretty much exclusively to them.
DeleteThe BHT version of the Osage Nation Supreme Court Decision:
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I more than beg to differ. The absolute worst offenses against Osage headright holders include the side swipe this new government takes at the BIA and the current MC when without both over the last 110 years it would have been nothing but the same destruction and chaos over the Osage, LLC. Tallgrass, LLC and now this Bluestem Ranch deal that is daily spiraling down into the vortex of the same Osage Nation black hole. A new Constitutional government which has stolen the running of the entire government from the Shareholders, who treats them and their representatives on the MC like filth, has stolen or appropriated their trust land and property without just compensation, given the proceeds of that trust land to a bureaucracy that grows by the day and eats up at last count $111,000,000 plus this coming FY year alone along with countless millions in the last ten years since this interloper moved in on the Headright owners with the votes of non-members in order to do it before the membership of the new government had even been determined. Hell before the new government had even been formed! This woman thinks she can run out this line of horse manure on me, she has got another thing coming. And the lies they tell lies upon lies upon lies about what has taken place in order to justify this fraudulent thing that masquerades as a legal replacement for the Osage Tribal government to any and all who are fool enough to listen or read such disingenuous printed english. I'm not having it and I hope you are astute enough to reject their vile obfuscations out of hand. Misdirected my a**! How dare you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely �� All in one breath.
DeleteThe Enterprise Board argued that they needed to recreate and rebrand the company, thus Tallgrass LLC was formed. However, both Tallgrass Construction and Tallgrass Technology are still subsidiaries of Osage LLC. TC is Osage Pinnacle Design Group and TT is Osage Innovative Solutions. You can verify this by visiting www.sam.gov and searching for Tallgrass Construction and Tallgrass Technology using the search records function. Also, enter osagellc.com in a web browser and see what site comes up.
DeleteThe whole mess of the ON government reminds me of the lines from Sir Walter Scott's Marmion - "Oh, what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive!"
Check out the Chickasaw Nations "businesses/industries/accomplishments" on their website (impressive). They seem to have people knowing about the business world. Looks like they picked companies that were "needed" and then seeked government contracts.
DeleteThe Enterprise Board's model is to be a front for other companies that perform the actual work and mark up the contract to skim a little off the top. That isn't a model which will ever put Osages to work, nor will it ever build a successful business. With a reported $6 million to $7 million or so in contract revenue this year and only two employees it is hard to understand how Tallgrass is still losing money if the markup is 10% or more. Where are they spending the rest of the money?
DeleteYou are both right. Its skimming or money laundering but no doubt was born from corruption from the start. I am one preaching all over the place about the Chickasaw Nation. I have been there with a first hand tour and is something to see the policies and standard they have is thru the roof. We are far from setting that exampke because to many have their hands in the cookie jar rife with cronyism and nepotism. Unless we crack that jar wide open the Osage meaning you and me are headed for a fight. As I would say the upper Echelon would rather keep the status quo. Time fort he Osage take back our Government for the people by the people and of the people.
DeleteWhen you pay these non-Osages at the helm, CEO, CFO and COO, an exorbitant salary and benefits and then close up the options, by an Act of the Osage Congress, for the Osage Nation as the member to get in there and take a look at what is going on with the day to day, according to the Harvard Project model that is a school of government entity not one of economics, this is what you have to deal with. Trust with verification is apparently a part of the game plan they know nothing about and wish to know nothing about either.
DeleteBHT has a story on the Osage Nation filing for a $1 million default judgment against three companies that were once part of the Osage LLC., in the October 13th 2016 issue.
https://www.facebook.com/Bigheart-Times-130472647019594/
The only thing the Osage Nation knows how to do is get itself in trouble legally, lose assets like the reservation and exorbitant amounts of money. With this running track record that continues on a daily basis, if the BIA approves a compact to run the minerals estate by the Osage Nation, it will be tantamount to gross dereliction of duty under the fiduciary obligation it has to the headright owner beneficiaries of the OME Trust.
Tallgrass is being run by Jill Jones as the general manager? Isn't she the wife of former AG Jeff Jones who the Chief GSB tried to replace but he had some sort of Federal prosecution designation and had to be demoted rather than be let go from the employ of the Osage Nation altogether? Now were paying for an AG in addition to an Assistant AG if I'm right. Plus Jill's collecting a salary from the ONES Board she still sits on as well. JUST GREAT!
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Free us from GSB! Free us from GSB! Free us from GSB!
What will the Bluestem Ranch show as progress in just 2 years. In 5 years will it still be barren with buffalo chips. I hope Trump wins (even if he has PD (personality disorder), he wants to start manufacturing here again (US). Let's build an "industrial centre" on the ranch and jump start Trumps election talk. What product would you suggest be invested in (metals, microsemi (military contracts). Maybe get a contract with Boeing for just "one part." (And, toilet paper is a best seller!)
DeleteTo listen to today's OMC meeting go to:
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Thank you!
DeleteWhat happened to the the second half of the OMC audio, or have they been in executive for three hours?
DeleteThey were in executive session for quite some time. I couldn't get second session either so I emailed Lou Brock. He said the IT person had to leave.
DeleteI am not sure what happened to Mixlr. It appears they will be using youtube from now on.
It's now up on "Audio 2".
DeleteThat seems right to me too. They stopped using the old system during the last Special Session of the ON Congress. This is just as good.
DeleteBookmark this page for easy reference:
https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/minerals-council/meeting-information
Here we go again with the lawyers making the money that should be going to the membership in benefits:
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"In the Sept. 19 complaint, Standing Bear asked the court to quash or modify the Sept. 8 and Sept. 9 subpoenas citing undue burden to provide the information and also argues the subpoenas require testimony, but those subpoenas did not state a subject of testimony." This RAB and his sidekick iPad Ray has had since May or June to compile these budget numbers. People are being paid salaries out of two to three different budgets and the whole thing is totally out of control. They have clearly lost complete control of the whole process in the Executive Branch and should be brought before a hearing of the Osage Nation Congress to account for what has been going on. The Osage Congress has tools to use if they were only smart enough to figure that out. Meanwhile GSB keeps slapping them with lawsuit after lawsuit so the Osage people don't know what he's up to with these budgets and can't find out. This guy is proving to be a sensational creep hands down and without question.
Free us from GSB! Free us from GSB! Free us from GSB! Free us from GSB!
They can't possibly run the minerals estate. They can't even agree to disagree with one another or from one branch to another. This government does not work and it's a failure. After 10 long horrible years enduring the crap that goes on with this Osage Nation, does this come close to what was expected from the Strategic Plan? Never! At some point an assessment needs to be made and we need to flush this government down the toilet where it belongs. How many undervotes were there in the last election? 1422! If this isn't a vote of no confidence I don't know what is. When are they going to grow up and stop being so institutionally sociopathically selfish between and among themselves with our money and do the right thing to make this government work properly for us and not for them and their self interest? What's the big deal about accounting to the Congress and the Osage people for where the money is going, for what, to whom and for how much in these Executive Branch budgets? Who died and made GSB Bobby Jindal or Barack Obama?
DeleteFrom the Harvard Business School and not the fiscally stupid and inept Harvard School of Government:
http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/why-leaders-lose-their-way
How did one of the School of Government, Harvard Project, white paper writers do for us while he sat on the Board of the Osage, LLC?
More on Osage lawyers and how crazy it can get:
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"...the government questioned whether the attorneys could be reimbursed for anything at all because they worked for a contingency fee, their clients didn’t “incur” any costs and they didn’t win any damages."
"They requested $628,003...$44,360...$1,163,302..."
Hahahahahahaha!
http://www.law360.com/articles/784561/feds-say-osage-lawyers-may-merit-zilch-after-14-year-case
Amanda Proctor of Shield Law Group PLC is the lawyer to trying get money back from Carol Leese of the Osage LLC isn't she? Where are we on that, I wonder or is she still chasing down Tribal Powpows across the country?
The roster so far this year for William S. Fletcher et al. v. U.S. et al., case number 4:02-cv-00427, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Oklahoma.:
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As for Amanda's efforts to recover money from Leese and Petre et al., she's not doing so well. The claims against Petre were dismissed in all three lawsuits, and Leese filed petitions on grounds of lack of standing for which the judge found merit and ordered a hearing.
DeleteThe day after the hearing all of the documents related to all three cases were removed from the OSCN.net website. At least Amanda was smart enough to see that money to fund the prosecution of these cases was allocated by the Osage Nation so that her law firm would get paid. The only losers here will be the Osage Nation and its members for throwing good money after bad.
They didn't prosecute the guilty ones who appropriated the money for Leese and the OLLC and the dead stupid Chiefs who signed off on continued funding time after time after time for such a stinking all out loser.
DeleteThis is how foundationally immature and childishly spiteful the Chief is...
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This guy is not only a creep, he's an embarrassment. I would die of shame before I would pull a crap stunt like this one. Get him before a Congressional Committee for Contempt of Congress and make him account for himself like the last Chief had to do.
But then they would have to go back to work for another Special Session and how horrible that would be, wouldn't it?
Delete"...documents not delivered contained confidential information." Government salaries are not confidential information. The Osage people have a right to know who is being paid and how much.
DeleteOsage Nation Constitution:
"This Constitution, created by Osage People, hereby grants to every Osage citizen a vote that is equal to all others and forms a government that is accountable to the citizens of the Osage Nation."
Of course it is our right to know who is getting paid, after all we are paying them right, its our money, how do you think we are to see if corruption exists which we know it does, why else wouldn't the Chief not protect the interest of the Osage if he didn't have something to hide. I call el gato gordo. The fat cat has had his hand in the cookie jar and just follow the money trail. We were warned about GSB and all of you voted for someone who has lied to the Osage. And you know whats worse is we are out 18,000,000 dollars and Congress is equally responsible for this they did not do the diligence. A let me see the Contract they didn't get to see they just took someones word right? Is this is what happened with the purchase of Bluestem. Just keeping it real.
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But in the Sept. 29, 2016, there is an article, "Accused Killer Walks" where Osage Tribal Court Judge Marvin Stepson grants a dismissal to Thomas Mongrain Eaves because he didn't get a speedy trial. How long has the court case been for the MC?
This Osage Nation government is such a disgrace. When Stepson comes up for election, you know exactly what to do.
Thomas Eaves to appear in ON Trial Court on second-degree homicide charge
DeleteThis man, who has been convicted for killing his own father and for victim tampering is charged by the Osage Trial Court in mid-April 2016 and then freed by Judge Stepson on Sept. 22, 2016? This isn't a speedy trial? Yet, those who embezzled $806,000 were in the legal loop for years YEARS and the case wasn't thrown out in that case. What in hell is going on with the Judicial Branch of the Osage Nation?
http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/04/19/thomas-eaves-appear-trial-court-second-degree-homicide-charges/
http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/09/22/osage-man-charged-second-degree-homicide-goes-free/
Their day will be reckoned with when the Osage who are right now rewriting the Osage Constitution and will take over this De Facto Government by way of a Constitutional Convention enough is enough. Time to end the status quo and put this Government back to the Osage People. All legally and by vote.
DeleteI'm telling you we need to file complaints against the licenses of the Osage Nation Judicial lawyers who are involved in this case and those two Osage Nation Supremes.
DeleteIt was the Osage and lawyer, Jean Dennison, who brought the case forward for a dismissal. What about that guy too?
DeleteYou all are so right.
DeleteWhat in hell is right. The Supreme Court of the Osage Nation is in a managerial capacity over all Osage Courts under its jurisdiction according to the Osage Nation Constitution. Where is the managerial review on paper as to how the lower Osage Tribal Court is doing on this and a few other rulings and opinions? "Good luck, Mr. Eaves." I don't believe it but that's what Stepson actually said on the bench while in court to the defendant when he let him walk free. We are now moving on every front and with every branch of the Osage Nation government from travesty to catastrophe and that's the simple truth. This government does not represent me or my interests and that right there is the bedrock principle behind why this Osage government was created and what it should be doing.
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Only the Osage Nation government has taken the Osage Tribe's reservation away in Federal Court.
This is how it starts:
DeleteMcGraw-Hill destroys textbook to placate pro-Israel bloggers
At one point in history, it was the same when people cried out, anti-Nazi bigots and they were left alone instead of taken to task. Israel has been appropriating land with illegal settlements on Palestinian land for decades. The U.S. supports this and it's wrong. The UN put in place the mandate and charter for Israel and they can damn well take it away.
See land map here: http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/29/nov-29-1947-united-nations-partitions-palestine-allowing-for-creation-of-israel/?_r=0
See land map now: https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/mcgraw-hill-destroys-textbook-placate-pro-israel-bloggers
Why does everyone who doesn't agree with the U.S. version of things tend to lose their shirts and the land they own and stand on?
Interesting that there is a closed-door meeting between the BIA and the OMC on the 27th, concerning a renewed attempt by the BIA to rewrite the CFR's. Producers not invited. Is this deja-vu all over again?
ReplyDeleteSo...lets see what comes before we put the horse before the cart. I would hope if this would be the case, the MC wil convey to their producers said conversation or there of.
DeleteSomething to keep a close watch on for sure...
DeleteThe producers were the proverbial canaries in the coal mine. I would sure want them in my corner if the BIA is up to their old tricks again.
DeleteI here you poster @ 8:44 AM. I like to give the benefit of the doubt. Always been positive but not with a blind eye. My eyes always open and hoping. Long live the Osage Tribe and the only policy that is in perpetuity the 1906 act as amended the Law.
DeleteYes. The producers managed to fight back and get the situation back in line with the help of the MC in court. I believe this was the same Judge who made the statement that the Osage Nation has no right to waive or abridge the rights of the Headright owners. The fact that the Osage Nation managed to talk the Court of Federal Claims Judge into believing that the Osage Shareholders had no standing to enter the HPP lawsuit was a direct and egregious violation of the 2004 Reaffirmation Act provision that reads verbatim, "...provided that the rights of any person to Osage mineral estate shares are not diminished thereby." The right to legally protect the personal property rights of the individual headright owner as it concerns the income coming from the Osage Mineral Estate Trust seems to me like that would be one of them. Oh, and in case it's in dispute that the Osage Nation is out there somewhere well beyond the pale, let me direct you to this phrase in the same Act, PUBLIC LAW 108–431—DEC. 3, 2004 118 STAT. 2609:
Delete"(U.S.) Congress hereby reaffirms the inherent sovereign right of the OSAGE TRIBE to determine its own form of government."
There it is in black and white and that's the sum total of it. Again, just like with the Osage National Council government back in the 1990's, the BIA and the Secretary of the Interior grossly erred in not minding the store from a fiduciary standpoint for the Osage Tribe as a legal entity and the legal Osage members with headrights as beneficiaries because it should have caught this Osage Nation business as soon as the draft copy of the Constitution hit the street in January of 2006 and sent Hepsi, the Harvard Project and her band of merry interlopers on the OGRC right back to the drawing board. When will the BIA ever learn to play the game according to Hoyle? They all need a good legal course in what a fiduciary obligation means in such a relationship to a beneficiary or beneficiaries.
BTW, the horse is supposed to be before the cart... I want the producers involved in this CFR process because you saw what happened the last time out. It was a mess and it will be a mess again if they don't have a seat at the table. The Headright owners should also have a voice in this too because it's our income that is at stake. The BIA needs to broaden its base and listen. More regulations won't do any good anyway.
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According to those at the meeting, Galen Crum is still living in a parallel universe. He keeps insisting that the CFR's, that were soundly trounced by Judge Frizzell, are a good thing. Crum needs to be put out to pasture!
DeleteThey are a good thing!
DeleteThat parallel universe you talk about, is reality is all a matter of perspective. Over regulation is not a good thing. Have you seen the true impact statement of said regs? If it can be proven that the ME can benefit from the New Regs as to not impede the process great. The Federal Government is challenged here because Congress is our Trustee. You can always predict if the BIA does not get this right we will be in court again. We have to change that because in the end the ME deserves better. Headright owners deserve better. Not Government and after all we are Sovereign we must look out for our interest.
DeleteThe Congress is not our trustee. The Trustee of the OME is the Secretary of the Interior and the BIA is the administrator on the ground. This is per the provisions of the 1906 Allotment Act as amended. Where do you guys come up with some of this stuff? The U.S. Congress has the Plenary Power over all Tribal communities including ours. That means they're the top dog. SOI and the BIA are the guys that get what the U.S. Congress wants done per the legislation signed into law. In other words they put it into effect. If the BIA Osage Superintendent and the SOI could read at the time the new government was formed back in 2005/2006 and had done their due diligence, we wouldn't even be in this mess because the last Act associated with the 1906 Allotment Act was one of clarification and it clarified in writing that a new government for the Osage Tribe could be formed and additional membership chosen if the members of the Osage Tribe chose to do. Nothing was said about the Osage Nation anywhere in the Act.
DeleteIn the proposed new cfrs, what is the very first regulation you would you change (or eliminate) and how would you change it?
DeleteI happen to agree with poster @ 11:05 AM. What we have is a De Facto Government and I can prove voter fraud happened as well. What we do is take back our Tribe the Osage Tribe ruled by the 1906 Act as amended long live the Osage Tribe.
DeleteMinerals Council Meeting tomorrow! The Agenda is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/3rd-osage-minerals-council-meeting-information-0
ReplyDeleteHEADS UP! Don't miss the Group Medicare Supplement insurance Plan F enrollment period going on now through November 30, 2016:
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For the Osage Nation Limited Health Benefit Card information see https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/member-services/health-benefits-information
If you already have an account for the Osage Nation Limited Health Benefit Plan Card, the 2017 Online Enrollment is available at https://maa-tpa.lh1ondemand.com
DeleteWindWaste is a non-profit organization dedicated to educating Oklahomans about the harmful effects of Industrial Wind. See http://windwaste.com/2016/08/29/industrial-wind-estimated-cost-oklahoma-5-2-billion/
ReplyDeleteAccording to the American Wind Energy Association, eight new industrial wind facilities came online in 2015 with 1,402 megawatts in rated capacity. Power purchase agreements for 57 percent of that capacity were with power companies selling electricity outside of Oklahoma. Not just that these companies who are building these turbines come from other countries as well. End the subsidies and they will not be able to stand alone.
DeleteChristmas shopping December 3, 2016 at the Osage Cultural Center with Santa!
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ReplyDeleteThanks to Jim Ryan for pointing this important information out on his FB web page over here https://www.facebook.com/groups/234024393278360/
What do we think about this?
ReplyDeleteLegalize Medical Marijuana In The Osage Nation
https://www.facebook.com/Legalize-Medical-Marijuana-In-The-Osage-Nation-949709851808795/
Osages with nutritional problems, nausea when Zofran won't cut it and problems with even having hunger can benefit from Marinol.
Why not? I guess there's never been a problem with alcohol around here, so we might as well legalize dope.
DeleteNot just for that reason with responsible policy this can happen. It has actually helped so many people, diabetes, anxiety, sleep disorders,migraines you don't have to smoke it either. And you might as well legalize it for personal use, because people are doing it any way. Its a great resource to tax and one big factor creates jobs. From security to distribution. You can regulate it. And put restrictions, twenty one or older, seller must not sell with in so many feet of a school and so forth. Next packaging must be in the form of just like getting a prescription. We all know the true gateway drug is Prescriptions and never was Marijuana. All in moderation.
DeleteYou have no idea how much grief mind altering drugs have caused our people over the last 150 years. NO--ABSOLUTELY NOT, for any reason.
DeleteThis is not mined altering compared to alcohol, alcohol impares your ability to see and mobility and make rational decisions Marijuana in most cases enhancee your ability. and you sound sorry but ignorant as I said its not Marijuana its everything else and above. Do your homework. Anyone who is a expert in this field can testify and education starts at home. I have successfully raised my children and always gave them the choice. Everything in moderation. It is you that is afraid of the unknown. You would actually see the complete opposite happen on the rez and around you for its calming affect and get this no side affects with kidneys and so forth. I just know to many positives to not say no. Reduces crime as well. Do you home work.
DeleteYou are not going to stop those who are bent on hurting themselves with chemicals that are so mind altering. Wether it be meth or prescription, huffing. Where there is a will there will be a way weather here or there but do not insult the integrity of Marijuana based on a few meth heads or heroin addicts.
DeleteWe're not discussing opening a commercial pot shop in the Osage. This is for controlled marijuana substances to be dispensed out of a pharmacy with a prescription. One of the Tribal communities in Nevada, the Paiute, is going in big time.
Delete"They partnered with a company called Ultra Health who's also in discussions with at least 20 other tribes in three different states who're considering using their sovereign nation status to get into the medical marijuana business."
You snooze...you lose...
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/paiute-tribe-breaks-ground-on-medical-marijuana-facility
This industry is just as hot as gaming right now and before the competition gets the jump on us, we need to look at this as a serious business proposition. We have to pay for that Bluestem Ranch land that will be nothing but a cash drain, the oil business is crashing and burning big time in the Osage and I'm not really certain if it has much of a future even if the Osage Nation did compact it. Despite warnings, the powers that be are still going ahead to put a hotel on another casino property and that is another huge cash drain on the primary business itself especially if it doesn't pay for itself. We have new buildings on campus to pay for, a language academy for toddlers that costs about $45,000 or more per child and the list goes on and on and on. If you can't think of ways to save and they can't, you have to find ways to pay for what you're spending. This is strictly business and it's a legitimate good paying business at the medical level.
We need to piggy-back off of this crowd draw starting on Monday:
Deletehttp://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/10/25/pawhuska-merchants-brace-opening-pioneer-woman-mercantile/
The Osage could sell a million MJ plants in DC alone a year. With this type of revenue, a state of the art Osage Agency could be maintained and The Osage could safely go into the oil and gas business. That is just a start.
DeleteThere are a lot of projects which can and should be done outside of Osage county under Osage jurisdiction.All which is needed is a United Osage,since it seems nothing else has been working except for our casinos.
DeleteHere here John Moncravie.
DeleteAn activity isn't under Osage jurisdiction if it's off the reservation. Even land held in trust by the BIA requires an agreement for cooperative enforcement. Without the existing cross-deputization agreement between the Osage, the BIA, and the State of Oklahoma the ON police wouldn't be able to enforce the laws except on a very small amount of land.
DeleteWhen a business ventures into the jurisdiction of another government it is bound by the laws where it conducts business. Foreign jurisdictions (even among the 50 states) rarely recognize claims of sovereign immunity as a protection against activities which are illegal within their jurisdiction. Individuals go to jail and businesses and the owners are fined under "little RICO" statutes.
Racketeer influence and corrupt organization. Hmmm. RICO. Not sure if that would apply. We are a Nation with in a Nation and we have a Government with in the Government recognized is our Sovereign to commerce and development without interference from the federal government. Or State of which we reside in. The tribal Marijuana Sovereignty Act, this will allow commerce without interference from the feds. This act will allow no federal funding restrictions to the Tribes.
DeleteIn addition to my post the S.1984, the Keeping out Illegal Drugs act (KIDS Act), bars tribes that cultivate, manufacture or distribute marijuana from receiving federal funds. The Tribal Marijuana acts counteracts (Kids Act).
DeleteH.R. 5014 is the bill known as the Tribal Marijuana Sovereignty Act and it only applies "on lands held in fee by that Indian tribe, lands held in trust by the United States for the benefit of that Indian tribe, or lands conveyed to an Alaska Native Corporation pursuant to the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act".
DeleteStep one inch beyond the boundaries of the reservation or the lands to be covered by this new law and you're subject to both federal and state laws. I wouldn't count on this bill ever making it out of committee, as it is in conflict with not only KIDS but a number of other federal laws.
First we have no Reservation remember? Maybe metaphorically, second, its no different than the gun laws just beacuse you have a permit or license in one state does not give you carte blanche to travel and carry in another state. And those who are in the field know this. Good sound policies makes sense. This is the product of the future. Oopsie the future is here.
DeleteGood discussion here. If this is so forbidden, how are the Paiutes getting away with it? The Bluestem Ranch will be fee simple minus the mineral rights. There is already a move on to take that land into trust. This new baby has to pay for itself. That's all there is to it. Let me council you like Tom Hagen in the "Godfather":
Delete"Well, I say yes. There is more money potential in narcotics than anything else we're looking at now. If we don't get into it, somebody else will, maybe one of the Five Families, maybe all of them. And with the money they earn they'll be able to buy more police and political power. Then they come after us. Right now we have the unions and we have the gambling and those are the best things to have. But narcotics is a thing of the future. If we don't get a piece of that action we risk everything we have. Not now, but ten years from now."
I'm with Tom on this one.
The liberals will probably leave this alone. Oil and gas, they won't. The Clinton administration is all about regulation and Reince Priebus shot the GOP in the head this Presidential cycle when he agreed to let Trump inside the tent. The foundation of the whole problem is world over-population, the highest standard of living in history and the ultimate cost to the environment as a result of it. Read Dan Brown's book "Inferno". Not sure that this is even worth worrying about because they aren't telling us the full story about the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant meltdown of 2011 and the fact that they can't fix the problem onshore in Japan or stop all the nuclear contamination still pouring into the ocean and moving around in the ocean currents on on a daily basis.
The Osage Nation Buffalo High Pharmacy. I sooooooo like it.
DeleteWe ' re s...mokin... ...n... jokin now. Brutus and Cassius and Reince Preibus. GOP? Dead on arrival.
DeleteIt's better than Buffalo Pie. At least it won't eat up and destroy every benefit we now have coming from the Osage Nation. See the comment down below.
DeleteFirst Marijuana is not a narcotic or even close lol. Labled only by the Feds list. And as I have related in a controlled environment it can work and is proving to work. Look abroad and how there programs are saving lives. We need to get on the bag wagon and really counter the real problems with meth, heroin, worse prescriptions over use of opiates, and education is where it starts. Maybe open up the Ranch as a renowned rehabilitation center. We can get federal funding all the while open up for hunting as part of the therapy bring our culture to a new height.
DeleteNot a bad idea.
Delete"When used in a legal context in the U.S., a narcotic drug is simply one that is totally prohibited, or one that is used in violation of governmental regulation, such as heroin or cannabis."
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Haven't heard of a bison hunt as part of any kind of rehabilitation program. Bareback on horse with spears or bow and arrows. That should be very interesting. Some of the Osages organizing the hunt are going to have to lose some weight or the hunters might become the hunted out in the field. Should make for some very curious video on Youtube in any event.
Lol.
DeleteThis just out, Marijuana has the ability to improve your eyesight. To many reasons to invest.
DeleteEnter...a good reason NOT to invest...'to see YOUR children, grand children, or great grand children be born ADDICTED to weed, which would likely impair their physical and mental functions FOR LIFE.' It's just not worth the risk.
DeleteSo miss informed you are poster, then raise your children right. Yes, they will be exposed to all kinds of peer pressures in school especially with prescription drugs. EDUCATION starts at home. I am happy to say I have successfully raised mine to know the difference. Marijuana is on the ballot in 5 states to legalize for recreational use and should have been done years ago. It is not addictive and does not impair your vision infact does the complete opposite enhances your vision and you will never hear of someone getting pulled over for a DUI. No side affects. And does not affect your liver. so you keep telling yourself these lies eventually you will believe in them. All in time, all will be regulated 21 and older just like alcohol. So I guess they shoukd abolish that to baecause where there is a way there is a will right? We will be out billions, becuase the opportunity is now. Just wait and see. Look at Colorado and Oregon. Just an opinion and of course I understand not to many will understand because fear breeds fear of the unknown. Bottom line, educate yourself. Ican be regulated those who have a medical license will not be taxed those who use it for recreational it will be taxed. 21 or older. Get ready its coming.
DeleteTests confirm Utah teens overdosed on new synthetic drug, the same drug found in Michael Jackson's home. Opioids 10 times stronger than morphine. Bought online. Its not Marijuana killing our children there's something way worse out there. EDUCATION starts at home.
DeleteI done tole you and tole you!
ReplyDelete"As Treasurer, Alexander said he would like to help streamline the accounting process, noting the Nation has over 150 programs “and that’s a mess frankly and it’s complicated and I think we can do better than that, make it easier on everybody.”
http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/10/27/alexander-confirmed-treasurer-other-appointees-confirmed-one-denied/
Hahahahahahahaha!
PAY ATTENTION HERE BUREAU OF INDIAN AFFAIRS!
And the Executive Brnach of the Osage Nation thinks it can compact and run the OME? Get out of town! No way, no how.
Glad to see the Shaw appointment didn't go through. Something right for once to pin our slender by a thread hopes on.
DeleteHow many of those 150 programs help the 80% or 15,350 of a total of 19,200 Osage Nation members who do not live in Osage County?
DeleteT H R E E. Actually only T W O while you're still alive.
#1 -- Health Card and Medicare Plan F (while you're alive).
#2 -- Higher education (while you're alive).
#3 -- Burial Assistance (actually benefits the family left behind after you're dead).
T H R E E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Right. End the conflict of interest and hiring all your family members as if they were cattle to be herded to other depts or another board. Cronyism stinks and so does the nepotism. Ah how mwny accountants had we had and did not streamline, really to easy to do and so easy to read. No excuse for laziness or incompetence.
DeleteWind situation:
ReplyDeleteReview:
http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2015/10/16/nation-sets-hopes-case-oklahoma-supreme-court-oust-wind-farms/
Update: The Oklahoma Supreme Court has affirmed the Osage County District Court's ruling in the case
In this case its on private land and why are we fighting this, oh, the excavation fees. Pesona non grata is what I say to the Drummonds. It's always about the Benjamins right. I think we need to go further and go National just like NDAPL. Becuase I see no Federal Protection or intervention on behalf of the ME. And I see a pattern with the Drummonds as well. (sic)
DeleteShut down injection wells but a 5.3 happens today?
ReplyDeletehttp://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us100075y8#executive
I just love the word choice of this CNN e-mail blast:
ReplyDelete"Americans will cast their verdicts on Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump Tuesday after an exhausting, acrimonious campaign that at times revolted the nation and tore at its fabric."
"Verdict" is succinctly right.
Tore at it's fabric of America is a understatement. "Verdict" is exactly right! Washington never seen before, exposed the FBI and the conflict of interest with Loretta Lynch. Ah ethics comes to mind. May the best man win. We will always be on heels of the door step of Washington no matter what, fighting for what we believe in guided by our Culture and faith. Long live the Osage Tribe.
DeleteCongratulations Trump.Yay...! :) Over 2000 regulations were passed in Obama's administration its time to kick to the curb the job killing regs..Good bye Gina McCarthy
DeleteLet this Trump win be an object lesson to the establishment in the Osage and a huge encouragement to all outsiders in the upcoming election in June of 2018 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteMy hat is off to Donald Trump for more reasons than just one.
Hope that the Trump victory filters down to the BIA. Make them accountable for their actions, or lack thereof. Right Galen?
DeleteMy takeaway is that at least we have an honest and truthful election on the ground. I never in this world thought that Trump would carry the day and here is. This is good and we should all be grateful for that at the very least. Hillary gave a fabulous concession speech and for that I sincerely and greatly respect her.
DeleteIn no way our election process is legal here, until the BIA monitors the process. And in my opinion Trumps success was predicted. We couldn't have a corrupt President for President. Just to many conflict of issues that would reshape America's politics had she become President. And the wau she put President Trump on defense the entire time was just ugly. From the media bias opps whats that like we don't have that going on with our Newspaper right? To the support she got from Hollywood trying to sway the Vote, really. Let them all move out og the USA as they said they woukd do. AMERICA HAS SPOKEN. AND THE OSAGE IS ABOUT TO HAVE THEIR MOVEMENT. I am a Osage woman and Hillary does not represent my values. Trump said some rough things I get it and I am for a woman President not this one maybe the Late Eloise Cobell would have been a better fit. Anybody but her.
DeleteMC Meeting information for today:
ReplyDeleteEarly meeting due to Veterans Day tomorrow:
Agenda: https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/minerals-council-meeting-information-2
Listen on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsL10qd9TF0
Update for on demand listening for the Nov. 10th meeting:
Deletehttps://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/minerals-council/meeting-information
http://www.bia.gov/WhoWeAre/RegionalOffices/EasternOklahoma/WeAre/Osage/OSAGEOilGasEIS/
ReplyDeleteThank you, John. Word is the BIA's Osage County Oil and Gas Scoping Summary Report is now available at the above web address.
DeleteIn response to Nov. 10th, at 12:44 p.m. Thank you for the info. I have a good credit score, paid off 4 year car payment last spring just at the right time without being late any payment, now I have been trying to draft a letter to the credit companies telling them "sorry, no more payments for no telling how long?" Now I will send them a copy of the article and maybe look up some older articles about how it has affected the oil companies in the short notices the BIA gave them to pay up more money in penalities. Hate to do this, but I've been borrowing money from the family and am hurting them. I'm near 70, looks like no more credit for me. Now I'll have to deal with collectors. A few weeks ago I tried to borrow come money from my bank, it showed my bills were 84% of my income, I'll send a copy of that too!!!
ReplyDeleteIn the article it kind of incenuates its the MC fault, it says "at the request of the MC." It skips over some details about their (BIA) short notice and what info was in it to the companies.
The earthquake in Cushing seems to say "it's not over yet." The super full moon is Nov. 14th, hope this passes without another e-quake? I heard on one of the Osages podcast interviewing GSB, and in it I remember him stating about the oil "and it's going away." I think I was the 5th podcast? Anyone interested I'll go find where I heard it.
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DeleteOsageblogger at times when we access this site for what ever reason we had to refresh the page several times to be able to reply to the comment. Everytime we would hit reply it would not allow access for what reason I do not know. I would leave the page come back, refresh. This wasn't my comment though I thought I would share if you could find a problem on your ened to fix possibly.
DeleteTell me your name so we can help you call the Nation...we shoukd not be letting our elder out there starving. I'LL SET UPMA FUND ME PAGE FOR YOU SIR or MAM. Its tuff out there folks.
DeleteTo Nov. 15th, at 6:12 AM. Thank you for your concern but I'm not starving. But food cost is one of the reasons I had to stop paying some credit card bills. I feel less stressful in dealing with the credit card companies now that I've read an article in a magazine (see below). It shows I'm not a dead beat, and this article doesn't include what the: (1)Dept. of Interior has caused (overnight financial ruin to oil producers, stopping drilling, causing bankruptcies), not the BIA, the decisions come from higher authority (Interior); the Superintendent in Pawhuska probably has to get an approval and review for each solution submitted from the MC, 2) and then, the Sept. earthquake.
DeleteToo embarrassed to give my name after whining over some bills when there are families out there trying to feed their children/family as the Chairman (MC) mentioned in a recent meeting. The suffering and struggles will continue until these leases, permits, etc. start to jump in (a year??), and not considering any future big earthquake.
Two of my accounts are with Chase bank. I now feel I have a legal defense if I get sued?
Below are quotes from MONEY magazine (March 2016)
"...the collapse in oil is weighing on the company's outlook. J.P MORGAN CHASE set aside more than $550 million is loss reserves last year to cover bad loans it made to now-struggling energy firms. The bank says it will allocate another $750 million if oil stays around $30 a barrel for another 18 months."
second quote:
"Crude-oil prices sank nearly 30% in the four weeks ended Jan. 20, to below $30 a barrel, raising fears that the global economy may be stalling out. As a result, economically sensitive sectors such as energy financials, and basic materials all suffered double-digit losses."
I do not need assistance to stay above water from the Nation, but I see on the Osage websites there are assistance programs for Osage members living in the county. It would be hard to understand if there are any children going hungry there.
Did you get the "New Tulsa casino/hotel" phamplet, "..2015, contributing over $47 million in distributions to the Osage Nation." Help thy neighbor, even if it's info to get assistance, there is most likely people who don't have internet or maybe not know how to use it. With all the incoming money the Nation gets, an outsider just wouldn't understand about all the bickering there is over money (budget), and how much money is "lost in investing," and then there is money "missing/stolen."
I understand and wishing you and yours a safe and Happy Thanksgiving. You will be in my thoughts and prayers as all my Brothers and Sister Osages. My eyes sees more than cares too at times, my eyes never closed, nor am I toned death, sweet whispers of wind talking like music in my ears nor am I blind to see without sweet whispers the smell of truth just begs to answer.
DeleteTrump has had some major issues with Indian tribes and casinos. I am not so sure he is the man we want for president. We have short memories. I believe it was Obama that allowed Cobell to progress.
ReplyDeleteRE: Trump.
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Again, no fines or punitive action taken in most of the legislation signed into Osage law but an over-abundance of it in the Election Laws while the election board and the Supervisor tightens their grip on who gets to run for Office. Who are these people to determine who is a serious candidate to run for office? Who the hell do they think they are? Plus they don't want to send out certified mail to the candidates because it's a waste of money? What to only 16 people in the last election? Could they be more lazy or what? I can smell their laziness outside the bathroom from a mile off! Do your job or get out the way for someone who really cares about working as hard and as long as possible to make certain that we have a free and fair election come June of 2018. Buhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://osagenews.org/en/article/2016/11/08/election-board-proposes-amendments-election-rules-and-regulations/
FYI -Quarterly Payment for Dec. 1, 2016 on Osagenation-nsn.gov (minerals council)
ReplyDelete$3,335 per Headright share.
Delete3rd Osage Minerals Council Special Meeting Agenda for November 21, 2016 at 10:00 A.M., is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/3rd-osage-minerals-council-special-meeting-0
ReplyDeleteAudio is now up for on demand listening for the meeting on November 16, 2016 at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/minerals-council/meeting-information
DeleteOf particular note which may make it even more difficult to run for Congress and jump through even more hoops that there are already:
ReplyDelete"Amendments to the Nation’s election code and rules/ regulations. The ON Election Board has developed proposed amendments to the two documents regarding the governing of elections."
Special Session of the Osage Nation Congress on November 28, 2016 --->>>
http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/11/16/congress-meet-special-session-starting-nov-28/
The 2016 Osage Ornament is now available for sale at http://www.osagefoundation.org/store/home.php
ReplyDeleteWith Oil prices sure to rise in the new year,depending on the agreement set forth by the 14 member, Opec meeting set for tomorrow, Saudi Arabia seems to be in play, yet to worry about Irans and Russia's output. Iran said they will keep the same output no more or less, and Russia has yet to agree to halt Rigs. Lets keep are fingers crossed. With that, Has the BIA's administration efficiencies been improved ie, processing permits? Have not heared from the producers as of late and their take in our News Letters would be a Highlight and keep the Shareholder's comprised k-no? Haven't heard much about the CFR'S and progress? And at this point where does the M.C. stand on this point thus far? We are coming into a New Year, the future is for us to see together not just the M.C. responsibility. And we should support them in their effort to fight the Wind Farms and is a proven fact if you live near them they will kill Bald Eagles and they will depreciate you and your property. Look if Trump doesn't want them around his property why should we be forced to accept when we have Mineral rights and the 1906 Act to support why we have a reason to fight. And mostly it is our Sovereign right. Long live the Osage Tribe and the 1906 Act as amended.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone had their December Payment hit their IIM Account?
ReplyDeleteOST posded
ReplyDeleteFrom New York Post:
ReplyDeleteTrump advisers aim to privatize oil-rich Indian reservations
http://nypost.com/2016/12/05/trump-advisers-aim-to-privatize-oil-rich-indian-reservations/
On Indianz.com -----Indians with Trump seek trust land changes. Dated Dec. 5th. Osages don't have a rez now, but we bought our land that many have sold. How much of the county is owned by Osages isn't much. This could get scary.
DeleteWe have the power already, since by all appearances we are privatized by the 1906 Act. We have eight able bodies capable of recruiting, dispatching and expediting the administrative paper work at a beatneck pace, taking the Federal dollars away from the BIA and applying the funds to generate a more efficient and removing any threat of more delays creating fluid processes eliminating redundancies. Less Government remember, just take one look at the waste in ours. And this is why we are different from the other Tribes we own the interest and our Trust is in the hands of the U.S. Congress and just because does not give the right to discriminate against, our interest should always be regarded and not targeted, not even by the Nation.
DeleteIf the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 had been allowed to run its course then all tribes would have been dissolved, all reservations disestablished, and all land privatized in June of 1959. It was never the intent of Congress to have subordinate sovereign entities continue on indefinitely.
DeleteIn fact, the modern policy of keeping Native Americans dependent on the federal government is in large part responsible for the on-going poverty among the tribal communities.
Understood.Thank you. I see the big picture thanks to history and such a easy read Politics is. To obvious. Time for change coming to Osage.
DeleteYes, 1.475 million acres were privatized in 1906, and given to the individual tribal members. After 100 plus years, it is almost all gone, 160 acres at a time. Now we have next to nothing, except for the mineral estate. If the mineral estate is privatized, then it is all over.
DeleteThe BIA, with all of it's inefficiency, is far better than that.
We are different. Because we are not apart of the Public sector. The M.E. is owned by 5000 Head Right owners. Royalties divided and distributed accordingly. And that is a fact. And this is why I ask why are we where we are at still at square one. Time to make a difference is now, not tomorrow. The interest of the M.E. is in the hands of eight council members and we could be moving and doing so much to further the interest of the M.E. albeit the regulations. The 1906 Act was and is here only to protect that interest, not to be micro managed by a defunct agency and all of its regulations that has stagnated our growth. The 1906 Act was the beginning of and not the end of. We are in the 21st Century with a New President and we are headed for a boom and we have to be smart and most importantly, prepared. We need hands on the ground a office of compliance, we need to monitor and micro manage our M.E. we need to be promoting for growth. We need a operating office not the BIA. Don't get me wrong the BIA can follow up on our drive to strive. We need to streamline. The 1906 Act was a beginning and still is alive and well. We must do what it takes to maintain that wellness. We need to create that volume of competitiveness all the while maintaining the relationships we have with our home grown producers and build new relationships and stay in the Know for accountability and transparency. Why did it take two years to communicate with the headright owners? Where are the PID invoices that each one of us shoukd have copies of? And yes I own wells in Texas. I have ran many a business and this is no way to run a multi-billion estate. Where is the standard set by the Council members? Where is the foundation? Other than the 1906 Act?
DeleteThe income from the Osage Minerals Estate is what is owned by the Shareholders after it has been collected and placed in the Federal Trust Account. The income begins its ownership with the Osage Tribe before it's taken into Trust. Read the 1906 Allotment Act and ALL of its Amendments! The standard is set by the BIA with the members of the Minerals Council as nothing but figureheads who can't even finally approve a lease or anything else for that matter. That final approval lies with the BIA Superintendant. Don't put out such disinformation here. It's nothing but wrong and has no basis in Federal law and it prevails no matter how convoluted this Osage Nation government spins its yarn into a total mess of false information.
DeleteThere is no disinformation here. And I am fully aware what does and the meaning of the 1906 Act is and I understand probably better than you all the way down to how the BIA was created. How ever you dice it slice it it still comes down the the M.E is owned by the Headright owners and we are not apart of the public sector. We can in many ways work in the interest of and we don't need naysayers but when opportunity presents itself as we are in a position to do and be pro-active. Whether you like it or not PC is out.
DeleteThe Bureau of Land Management (BLM) is promulgating new regulations to reduce waste of natural gas from venting, flaring, and leaks during oil and natural gas production activities on onshore Federal and Indian (other than Osage Tribe) leases. The regulations also clarify when produced gas lost through venting, flaring, or leaks is subject to royalties, and when oil and gas production may be used royalty-free on-site. These regulations replace the existing provisions related to venting, flaring, and royalty-free use of gas contained in the 1979 Notice to Lessees and Operators of Onshore Federal and Indian Oil and Gas Leases, Royalty or Compensation for Oil and Gas Lost (NTL-4A), which are over 3 decades old.@ http://www.indianz.com/News/2016/12/06/lakota-country-times-new-rule-curbs-wast.asp
ReplyDeleteJust seen on CNBC that Trump has chosen Scott Pruitt, Atty. General of Oklahoma, to be Head of the EPA. It say he is currently a critic of the EPA, sounds encouraging. With the Dakota Pipeline campers staying to see what Trumps decides to do with the recent Army Corp. of Engineers decision, I wonder if Trump will have some representatives of the camp go to Washington to talk with him, OR -- send the new Head to talk with them at the camp area?? Whatever Trump does, either re-route the pipes or reverse the latest decision will show us what to expect from Trump in future negative on-comings for the indigenous peoples
ReplyDeleteCannot reply. To poster 12:51 pm Yes what a pick. He is known, Scott Pruitt is a businessman and public servant and understands the impact regulation and legislation have in the business world, And I know as well as many other Osage Headright Owners felt it below the waste when the Permitting process nearly came to a halt in 2014. Bad policies by the EPA. Had everyone done the diligence we would not be where we are at today. Know your rights. I do. Talk about an agency stepping over boundaries all in the name of there green agenda. Good riddance Gina McCarthy.
ReplyDeleteIn regards to the M.C. fighting the wind farms get a cost analysis report on how much money one of these turbines cost and the savings? Monthly, daily and so forth. Huge very ugly windmills prevent enjoying the beauty of many western states. The joy of driving through many once scenic areas is now ruined and birds are being slaughtered by lethal wind turbines installed in their breeding territories. The death toll on all birds and bats is in the millions per year and rapidly rising. California’s Altamont Pass wind “farm” has already killed at least 3,000 Golden Eagles. Adding insult to injury, the cost of wind power is costing taxpayers and ratepayer and extra $10 billion/yr and that cost is growing exponentially. After more than two decades of huge government investments, wind is still generating less than 5% of the electrical power in the United States.
ReplyDeleteWind farms. It seems to be the era of "green energy." From watching TV, wind turbines are being set up from coast to coast and in-between. Out in the ocean somewhere near San Diego, wind turbines are in the water (weighted down). Out on the east coast there's soon to be an auction or bid thing going on to put them near or on the water. Trump is for wind farms. It looks to be this is just starting "big time." I wouldn't be surprised if wind farms end up on Blue Stem Ranch through "overreach by the government," and "eminent domain." Isn't it June 1st or July 1st the state of OK will still be paying the wind farms incentives way into the future if a new bill isn't passed?
DeleteHey, California, are you shaking? Pretty strong one, 8.0 M. It's calmed down in Okla. since they've shut oil wells down and stop some injections. Hope all you are okay.
ReplyDeleteI believe it was a 6.5 M not an 8! Bad enough without making false statements. Sheesh!
Deletestand corrected.
DeleteSo, when all the money comes due, will the Osages be able to hide behind the Corporate/Government veil or will the creditors be able to sue each and every elected official involved over the last ten years individually and severally who has approved by vote and signature, including the Chiefs past and present, for all this negligent spending without actually knowing how much they have to spend overall and in particular on servicing all this debt they are taking and have taken on in the past?
ReplyDeleteThe elected officials pledged assets of the Osage Tribe. Should it come to collecting a debt over non-payment the creditors will look to foreclose on those assets. In cases where sovereign immunity was waived, there will be no viable defense. The only way to go after the elected officials is for fraud, and then only if they exceeded their lawful powers.
DeleteIt is good to think about the end result of taking on too much debt. Too bad the elected officials didn't give it good thought.
To Dec. 9th, 2:54 pm, can you please be more specific about the pledged assets. What assets? and What designated creditors (Federal agency? Private loan?). The elected officials are members of the Nation, they are not the "Nation." We are all members and owners of the said assets. Maybe the description "thief" is more descriptive than the word "fraud." It's like coming home and the collectors are carrying out your TV and refrigerator.
DeleteLook what happened to social security. Is the future generation going to come up short because of present decisions? Let's keep sight of the recent monies designated for the upcoming new technology of the MC, it involves and affects each and everyone of us and those that will follow.
To poster 4:29 pm. They cannot pledge the M.E. It is owned by the Headright owners and a protected asset. So I to say what asset, the park, airpark, Bluestem Ranch, the mound?
DeleteIt's been going on from the beginning. I believe that it's collusion on the part of both the Executive and the Congress where they talk a big game about such tight budgeting that not one cent can be dropped off, altered or otherwise or the world will come to a end. Raymond Red Corn is the point man on this just like he's been for many years, even while he was in the Congress. Even though he lived away for many years, now that he lives back home it's a totally different story. He's the water boy for all who live back home who think those who live away deserve nothing from the proceeds of the income made by the Casinos and other income sources like the taxes generated by the Osage government. Most, if not all of them, think that if you don't vote in the elections then that makes your membership in the Osage Nation worthless where getting any benefits are concerned from their point of view. One even said to me within the last number of years during a conversation that one man from Barnsdall had called him about benefits and he countered by asking him what he did as an Osage or as a Nation member to even deserve such benefits! They are all like this to one degree or another. If those of us who keep an eye on things weren't minding what they are up to there would be no benefits for all of us but important people are following what is going on here at the Osage Blog and our total member numbers can't be used unless benefits are provided to all of us and this was shared with me in a bitter tone of voice by one of the elected members of Congress. To that I say G-O-O-D! Why should we who live outside Osage County be used to pad the Federal funding they get if we don't see any benefits coming from Tribal income? They can't see this though and as a result, they pad the budgets with at least $2 million to $5 million a year which they drop into an account they call the Permanent Fund at the end of every year which is supposedly to be used for direct benefits to the Osage membership. Then they turn around and use the money, $30 million or so, as collateral to get loans to benefit them for new buildings on Campus or expansion for the Osage Casinos with hotels that don't pay what they are initially advertised to pay out as a return on investment, this abomination of a purchase known as the Bluestem Ranch that will never pay a return on investment the way GSB has it set up to do and a ranch for the education of the Osage Children and whatever all else is being flown as economic development justifying the use of gaming proceeds which it does not and never will under the current scheme.
DeleteBuilding a hunting lodge and letting some banking buddy of his make money on a verbal lease which is money for hunting fees that the Osage government tax authority should be realizing, not some rich banker to float our loans that tie up the money in the permanent fun that should be and should have been all along made available to all of us in a per capita payment even if it's just a $250.00 Christmas Bonus for the membership yearly. Selfishness reigns with these people and they go through a lot of convoluted maneuvers to keep most of the money for themselves to spend on themselves exclusively if they live in Osage County. There is now a move on to overthrow this new government with a new Constitution to throw out those who don't live back home in Osage County. Meanwhile, the Osage Government now has full control of the Casinos and I'm hearing locally at the Tulsa Casino that the employees aren't making any money because they don't get the pay and bonuses they used to because the Osage government has taken all that away from them and the morale there among those employed is at an all time low. I knew the minute GSB got his hands on the Casino business by getting the board to approve his son-in-law to become the CEO of the Osage Casinos that those greedy Osages in the government would go right after the operating capital and the first place they would go would be the compensation of the Casino employees. When they all walk off the job and there is no one to open the Tulsa Casino and probably all of the rest of them too, don't be surprised. You read it here first. Keep that in mind when these jerks start running down the "Red Blog" right here at the Osage Blog. Keep doing what you're doing Osage Blog. You are needed in a huge way these days.
DeleteIf in fact this is true Congress needs to convene and get the committee to investigate if this true someone is making bank thru the back door. Pay to play, the end is here. And it will stop. Yes I have my eye on the players and that water boy is on the list. Crony capitalism.
DeleteThats just plain fear mongering about the status of someones membership it would take an act of Congress in our case to eliminate a Osage. We are different but a one page rewrite of the Constitution is in our future and the movement is getting closer to making the reality true. Just takes signatures. What we the Osage, the little Osage and big Osage understand the sickness that has found its way in our Government, Greed and the debt. Was not supposed to happen but it has and now we pull the reigns. Full on Osage Constitution rewrite.
DeleteWhat is the entity that issued the hunting license on the Bluestem Ranch? Deadline has been extended to Dec. 14:
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Without the burden of you if you don't live in Osage County. Be careful what you wish for and we do have much to fear especially since we're shareholders. If you are and don't live back home in the Osage, you'll be just as out on your hind end like the rest of us. Where do you live, BTW?
DeleteDecember 12, 2016 at 1:55 PM Congress is in collusion. Did you miss that point? What are they going to do? Convene and investigate themselves? They are now trying to legislatively set up another fund or account to park this last years over-budgeted left over unspent money in and at least one member of Congress is calling it the "Permanent Fund II." This needs to go before the AG but I doubt she will do anything to clean it up because she's been in place for some time and should know what's going on around there by now. File a complaint with her and see if it goes anywhere. It can only be an ethics complaint which is strange to begin with. If it does not fall within that purview, she can't look at it. Where complaints on the part of the membership of the Osage Nation, the elected officials have tons of leeway to do exactly what they want as long as it can't be found to be unethical. I suppose even commit criminal offenses like fiscal malfeasance and aiding and abetting fiscal misappropriation. Apparently from what I am given to understand. The Executive Branch is now taking money from one entirely separate budget for a department or office or the like and transferring money from another entirely separate budget for a department or office or the like and the Congress know full well what is going on. If that's not willful neglect of duty, I don't know what is. I believe that the Judicial Branch is in there too by ruling that the Congress can't interfere because it's in violation of the separation of powers. Any form of fiscal crime can take place I guess as long as the Osage Congress doesn't attempt to legislatively interfere. The FBI should be called in to sort this mess out but I doubt that they will go anywhere near it even though gaming money is likely being spent for things that probably violate the NIGA. This is what happens when ignorant people take on way more than they can handle and run like hell with it. Nobody is going to put these people in a jail cell which is exactly where many of them belong. Attorneys are required by law to report violations of the law and conduct unbecoming to the Oklahoma Supreme Court and the Oklahoma Bar Association but that hasn't happened yet and probably never will. It's hopeless. I had so much hope that they would straighten up their act after they threw out Chief Red Eagle but I now think that was all a ploy to get him out of the way to make room for point man GSB who will continue to further the ONO agenda that has been back of this Osage Nation scheme from the very beginning.
DeleteGSB gave a verbal agreement to non Osages to hunt on the Bluestem Ranch. These non Osages are conducting the doe hunt for the youth. If you have questions about any of this call the Chief's Office.
DeleteShareholders have nothing to fear but fear itself...nothing that is happening today hasn't been already tried and tried and sliced and diced still comes out the same, we own the M.E. Not that the Nation can intervene ever, anyother action would be hostile to the Osage Tribe recognized time after time in Court of opinion, in regards to the meaning of what we are represented by, the 1906 Act as amended. Set up so to advert corruption. Into perpetuity and if we were to make any changes to the document would make everything else null and void including the Nation. No your rights. The precedent has been set.
DeleteActually, according to this article:
Delete"The casinos have guaranteed the loan for the purchase of the Bluestem Ranch in Osage County.”
Great! What happens to the Casinos if they default on the loans? The bank owns the Casinos?
http://www.osagenews.org/en/article/2016/12/13/gaming-enterprise-board-releases-2015-annual-report/
Oil is at $51.50 a barrel. I am a year late on my prediction not bad given the price per barrel is on the rise how are we doing in our back yard? And how is our latest technology working for us? Do we have the engineer's that BIA promised 4 years ago working for the agency?
ReplyDeleteWhat's the point of that? No new business because the regs have pretty much shut down the O&G business in the Osage.
DeleteI would like to know how the latest technology is developing, I'm really excited about it, I also wish the MC would acknowledge their progress in the newsletter. By the way, anyone get one this quarter?
DeleteAt present, we have only one of those new engineers promised? Last I heard in a MC meeting is that he had gone off to training and then was coming back to the Osage for on-the-job training?
On CNBC yesterday afternoon (Tues.) that four other countries are going to cut back daily productions. Don't remember who they were. I'll search the internet.
Is there a problem with hiring someone in this field who is experienced as opposed to training someone. Like a certified engineer?
DeleteBound and determined to spend money no matter what! Does it make you feel better, this obsession you indulge? There is nothing happening in the Osage because the BIA and the EPA have shut it down with all these regs they have taken on for no good reason and to the severe harm and detriment of the trust beneficiaries otherwise known as the headright owners. There is no yearly convention with the oil and gas producers paying for and participating in and putting on a token one at one of the Osage casinos won't bring business back. The Osage has dried up for new business and the only ones who should be talking with an attorney now are the shareholders who have suffered so much loss of income due to all these regs that the BIA took on over a lawsuit that was dismissed. Don't expect anything and don't be fool enough to think any money should be thrown at this to satisfy your foolish insistence on a running office for oil and gas by the Minerals Council. If you can think using reason and logic, try and do so now.
DeleteIndianz.com Dec. 8, 2016. "Bureau of Indian Affairs opens door to big shift in tribal economies."
ReplyDeleteFederal Register Notice Dec. 9, 2016 (TRADERS WITH INDIANS), a proposed rule by the Indian Affairs Bureau seeking feedback, comments must be submitted on or before April 10, 2017.
QUOTE: "The Department has received numerous proposals from various Tribes pertaining to Indian Trader regulation. Many off these proposals suggest that trade regulated under part 140 should include not only commercial activities, but also mineral and energy development and any form of natural-resources extraction or agriculture."
QUOTE: "The current Indian Trader regulations were promulgated in 1957, revised in 1965, and modified in a piecemeal fashion. The current regulations largely reflect policies that ignore self-determination and the growth of Tribal economies."
QUOTE: "(6) Trading means buying, selling, bartering, renting, leasing, permitting any other transaction involving the acquisition of property or services."
QUOTE: "The Department is interested in receiving feedback on how revisions to the trade regulations could facilitate economic activity in Indian Country and tribal economic self-sufficiency."
FYI - Indianz.com Dec. 13,2016. a "North Dakota pipeline spills more than 170K gallons of crude oil."
ReplyDeletewell, this timing is remarkable.
Saw that the alarms failed to warn. Something went wrong. In any case this will be investigated to the tune of when in fact it is how redundant and costly. I believe this pipe is older than 60 years. More like 66 yearr. Corrosion happens at 60 years depending. Thats a good record though environmentalists will tell you it isn't. Weather this happened by rail, train, shipping etc.... Where are the engineer's by the EPA, ARMY CORE OF ENGINEERING and the Corporate checking on these pioelines that are aging? What are they getiing paid for? Next excuse no man power, get on it and start hiring is what I say. Hate excuses you know everyone has one.
DeleteMC Meeting on Friday. Agenda:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/minerals-council-meeting-agenda-0
Taking a break to set up for a presentation by the Oklahoma Secretary of State and the Secretary of the Environment as well...should be back online soon at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/multimedia/live-media
DeleteSoS is going on about the Arbuckle formation and 1000 wells affecting it. Isn't the Arbuckle formation located at the bottom of the State of Oklahoma?
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SBG: Where are we on this and why weren't we involved and included in this National water rights bill?
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GSB...solly!
DeletePatricia Sperier Brite suing the M.C for the financial records yes! Its about time. I have been asking where are money is goibg and how it is being used. One millon a year is the drawdown we have every right to know how our money is working for us...or not. Thank you..change is coming. @ osagenewscom
ReplyDeleteI thought the MC budget was submitted to the Osage Nation Congress for appropriation. Are you saying that this budget isn't available for public shareholder review? If that's true, no wonder PSB is getting legal. Interesting.
DeleteIt seems that Gentner is up to no good again. See the Erwin opinion:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/sites/default/files/images/2016-1215_3OMC_Erwin-Opinion-web.pdf
Tremors generated by oil and gas hydraulic fracturing – or “fracking” – are usually a million times weaker than the felt seismicity threshold, typically measuring minus 2 (below zero) on the Richter scale. This is why over two million wells have been fracture stimulated worldwide since the 1940s without creating earthquake hazards. Time to get some good lawyers from the industry and stop his continued assult on the M.E. once and for all. And the BIA what are they doing to stop this rediculous claim?
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