Election Day TODAY! From years past experience, it's a wonderful time to be in the Osage and a better party you won't find on the planet! Fry Bread. Meat Pies. Lemonade. Fried Chicken. Election tents. Family and friends to visit with and see again. Candidates collected there on Campus to talk with. What a time is always is... Not to miss! We'll be here on station so let us know how it's going. We'll report the Minerals election results as soon as we possibly can.
You may think you know who that candidate Jackie Jones is, but I doubt it since she makes a big effort to hide her evil unethical ways and intentions - most of her family will most likely be voting her way but most people know better not to I hope and pray. However, those of you that don't know - she works up at the Osage Nation in constituent services. She hires nonosages and has no education to run a department. She was given her job by her uncle Chief Jim Gray and got an immediate promotion of her position when her uncle Ex-chief Redeagle got into office. Redeagle and his sidekick Diedre Bigheart (who happens to be best friends with Jackie's Mom and an alley of Jackie herself before the given promotion). She was initially hired to assist the chief's executive secretary to help answer phone's all day. That was and is all she is qualified to do. But remember, Redeagle had hired some of his niece's in positions they couldn't possible qualify for on their own merit. Anyway, the big closeted problem with this lady is that she creates gossip and conflict within the nation every chance she gets. She looks down on Osages if they cannot serve her purpose and is an overall unnice person. In order for a person to be able to like other people they need to start out liking themselves. In her position this type of behavioral issue can well become and has been a roadblock for may Osage people that cross this lady's path. Her attitude alone would turn away the best of her intentions to say the least. She even fired an osage just to hire her nonosage sisterinlaw. She can control her sisterinlaw and that is what she hungers for - control. And not in a good way.
Voting for Jackie Jones would be like handing the keys back to that snake Deidre Bigheart and that whole crew. It wouldn't be morally right.
The Osage News is reporting that Andrew Yates, Cynthia Boone, Talee RedCorn, Kathryn Red Corn, Joe Cheshewalla, Everett Waller, Galen Crum and Stephanie Erwin are elected to be the 3rd Osage Mineral Council.
Still waiting on the General Election Results. Another site is reporting a problem with one of the voting machines and a hand count of the ballots has begun. It may be 6:00 a.m., before the results are available. We cannot confirm that this information is correct.
Geoffrey Standing Bear has been elected Principal Chief and Raymond Red Corn has been elected Assistant Principal Chief. We have two members of the Osage Nation Congress retained; Alice Buffalohead and Kugee Supernaw, and four new Congressional members; Ron Shaw, Angela Pratt, Otto Hamilton, and James Norris. Congratulations to all of the winners! We extend our gratitude to all who ran in this election who did not win. You stood up and put yourselves forward in the effort to serve the Osage people and we thank and greatly admire all of you for having done so.
Predication as far as two years ago, now Chief Geoffrey Standing Bear, would win with a total of 1800 votes, actually won the race with 1615 votes. Oh! two out of of the three women I posted for Osage Mineral Council made it, and the third came in very close ninth. Thoroughly enjoyed the give and take in the political relish of theses races. Your talented writers, what can one say, but another time. Myself , working on a blackberry story, with pictures to be posted. H
June 3, from 9am to 4pm, a meeting for Cobell pay out, at Otoe-Missouria Community Build....8151 Hwy 177....in Red Rock, Ok. Bring IIM acct. numbers & questions about payouts. I want to know about the interest on my money. This is tomorrow!!! Go to Indianz.com web site. Their may be something in Ok paper in the morning.
We were told once the the final distribution was approved the settlement would be distributed in 30 days from the court decision, now I heard it will be 3 mos from now is that true or is there just going to be delay after delay? I will not be able to attend. Could someone please ask this question please.
I went to Red Rock today, they said it will take 6 wks. to get the accounts ready to make out checks to be sent to all the people. Then, after that, it will take up to 3 mos. to get everyone paid. In all, they said within 90 days you should have a check. I got to see the missing years on my account, they had no figures that I ever got a payment, also there were years of part totals that not all 4 pymts were posted. This is OSTs fault for not keeping records. I figure about 5 to $7000 is missing just in my account. But I'd have to prove I got that money. Sooo, I'll spend some time at my bank, looking for old deposit slips and records for proof the next six weeks. The people were nice, and seen the problems with the OST!!!...Hope this helps some of you. Also the interest goes back into the big pot, not to us.
I'm not going to hold my breath. What happened with Ok keeping shotty records or if any at all as far as can tell the DOI'S reason for the lapse or there of for the excuse for the great incompetence? I to had to self identify but my syblings did not have to self identify go figure huh? And then had to call the Osage County Clerks office for final account on our past Grandmothers estate to identify the Estate as well and to me this is so News Worthy. Who's accountable.? We know the debacle with the VA scandal I feel this is in the same context with the exception that this issue with the loss of untold billions and those who suffered at the hands of the Gov.
The Osage News is reporting that Amendments 13-19, 13-20 and 13-22 have passed in the 2014 election. Amendments 14-03, 14-04 and 14-05 failed to garner 65 percent of the "yes" vote.
If all went well today at the ON Election Board Emergency Special Meeting, the unofficial election results for the General Election should be certified. See http://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/events/election-board-emergency-special-meeting#zoom=9&lat=36.4257&lon=-96.66046&layers=T0B00 and https://www.facebook.com/OsageNews/photos/pcb.708115072582656/708114979249332/?type=1
Thank you Osageblogger, curious as to what you think about ONCA 13-19 and ONCA 13-22. How is it that the Nation only obligate to the Osage Headriight owners yet we are all Osage. Is this not discrimination? The M.E. was left to us inherited does not make the Headright owner any more Osage or less than the next Osage next to me. Is the Membership going to change again? So, what we turn a blind eye on our fellow brother and sisters?
While everyone has been busy with this election there has been changes to the federal laws that will affect the Osage head right holder tremendously. We no longer have our own CFR regulations that pertain to our uniqueness. We are categorized as one of those tribes that did not pay for their lands and those that are soon to be unrecognized. We used to have a whole sec. just for us. 25 CFR SEC. 117 AND 17 FOR Actions on Will of Osage Indians. So looks like it is going to happen just really soon. The Osage 1906 allotment Act is now the Osage Tribe of Indians of Oklahoma surplus land Act of June 28th, 1906. This used to be the Osage Allotment Act of June 26th, 1906. Every act has been changed. The 1912 act which governed probate has been messed with so much you can't even recognize it. The superintendent now can decide how things will be inherited by a family settlement and if a non compos mentos writes a Will and they are allowing a senile person to write one then it does not have to be approved by the state district court but one that is made by any Osage has to be approved by the state district court first which means there isn't even any since in writing a Will. The BIA and State are going to take it away from any heirs you have by the ability to sell it and take it out of restriction at any time and give anybody their competency papers and the superintendents final decision is final. So that is what your congressmen and chiefs have done for the last 3 administrations. The thing is we could possibly get these things voided because there was suppose to be a comment period and a review period of which they did not inform anybody and allow us to comment on it so they just took all of your rights away folks.
Well, I'm concerned and confused for two reasons. If a non-Osage spouse inherits, what then? In addition, it makes sense to me that the Osage Nation can only have any authority or autonomy over Osage Nation members where the Mineral Estate is involved period as per the Constitution prior to the Amendment. Now, If I understand this correctly the Osage Nation has only the right to protect the headright owners of Osage descent. This appears to me to open it up (ME income rights protection) to more than just Osage Nation members. (?) Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I think it's important to know what the Congressional intent of this amendment is as well. I think the right to membership amendment has corrected what should have been in the ON Constitution from the very beginning.
I may be incorrect, but this is the way I understand it. I am Osage and my spouse is white.Before my death I can set up the paper work so that when I die my spouse can have the use of my headright until their death. Upon the spouse d3eath then the headright goes to our children who are Osage. The surviving spouse would never own the headright but only have use of it. This has to be set up ahead of time and you could contact the Osage Nation or the BIA to see how to do this. In either case, I believe yo have to declare how you want your headright handled?
What my point was and is, is that the Osage Nation can and will protect your headright income interest but not that of your wife if she is not of Osage descent. This is now clarified by this new amendment to the Constitution. I'm not sure what this means legally or what effect it will actually have as the BIA is the one who distributes the Headright payments.
No this is a Federal matter under the 1906 Allotment Act. You can read in the Osage News (hard copy) Volume 10, Issue 5 - May 2014; the amendments verbatim in the Sample Ballot on page 16 and the next page gives you an explanation of each of the amendments and what they are supposed to mean.
Julie and I want to thank everyone who participated in our Osage Nation election. We just came home after picking up campaign signs in the East, North, and West of the Osage. That's almost 200 miles of main roads. We will cover the South tomorrow. We stopped by the Grayhorse Village where the camps are already up or were being set up. It is a joyful sight. It has been a wonderful experience meeting so many Osages these past 9 months. The trail has been through all our communities here at the Osage and to meetings in California, Texas, Kansas, and many places in Oklahoma. You can see a great similarity among all the Osage people. We definitely are one family. I will serve you all to the best of my ability and with full effort. Our past is what binds us now, our future depends on our commitment to working together in the present.
Congratulations, Chief StandingBear! Believe this; we are committed to having a better Osage government that works and is run for the benefit of all of the Osage people. That's what we were promised eight years ago and if you can finally deliver on this promise to all of us, you will become a great leader and a well respected Chief of the Osages.
I want to congratulate Geoff Standing Bear and Raymond Red Corn on their election as Principal Chief and Assistant Principal Chief. I also want to send very best regards to their able and worthy opponents, Margo Gray and Amanda Proctor, for a valiant run. I hope and believe the next few years will be a very productive and useful time for our Osage people, with excellent leadership from Chief Standing Bear and excellent Congressional liaison and counsel from Assistant Chief Red Corn, and strong and helpful legislative work from the newly elected members of Congress. I also congratulate Chief Justice Meredith Drent, and those who have confirmed her in that position. And finally, congratulations to the newly elected Mineral Council members, and Godspeed to them in taking good care of that very important responsibility.
Congratulations to all of our new Congress and Minerals Council...I have been proud to get to know many and see our people work together and I really enjoyed being at the elections and the great fellowship and food...All Osages would profit by being a part of the times together...Thanks to all I have met and Truly a great CO NGRATULATIONS to our new Chiet and 'Assistant...Go get em tiger!!!! Show us what you can do to get us on the right tracks!!!
No matter who you voted for, isn't it a shame that we have to start out with an Assistant Chief that already has a cloud of deception and lack of transparency hanging over his head ! I don't pretend to know all there is to know about the rumors of him "Mis-placing" artifacts he took from the museum but with the museum board and the Osage news not coming forward with information about this, it cast some suspicion over what really happened. Add to that Raymond not coming forward with some sort of explanation it raises the question of Trust. As far as I am concerned this will always overshadow his term in office until this is addressed out in the open. It's a shame we have to start off where we left the JRE situation. NO trust, no honesty and no transparency! If this is an example of how our Asst. Chief is going to handle his affairs and those of the On, I would say Standing Bear has his work cut out to bring trust to the ON government.
Something else is in the wind too. Osage News has a blurb on Facebook about Osage Nation Tax Commission Administrator, Mary Mashunkashey resigning her post. She's the wife of Joe Don Mashunkeshey of the Pawhuska Village scandal -- http://osagenews.org/article/fbi-investigating-former-pawhuska-five-man-board -- and Macy Mashunkashey's mother. I wonder if this is tied in somehow. Does anyone know what is going on?
That's a problem for the Nation the cloud over Red Corn. And Our Chief needs to come out and say he supports him, if not this is a huge cloud over the Nation. And I repeat this needs to be addressed. I hope the Chief wasn't hoping that this question was not on the Horizon. This is Political and let me be clear their are hitters out their amongst us Osage are willing to go to the length to get to the truth! And I say this lightly now. But not to address could have it's adverse affects if you know what I mean?
It's not political. What he did has nothing to do with politics. He stole artwork from the OCH Museum while he was a Board member and in a position of extreme trust. This vile behavior reflects on the Osage Nation government and all Osages because he was a member of the Osage Congress at the time. We can't have people in high office in our government with a proven track record of sticky fingers! In any other government setting besides our own, pressure would come to bear and the head of government would seek a no-confidence vote from the legislature and he would be asked to resign or face the consequences. One way or the other, he would be out on his keister just like John Red Eagle. IMO he should be. Anybody on a Board of Directors of a museum who steals artwork from it, is a Bum. Am I right or am I right?
Yes, in so many words. If you are a Board Member of an Art Museum, you are placed in a high position of trust that he apparently violated when he stole the artwork. Maybe he thought it was a good cover for his nefarious activities. The non-Osage community, no doubt, thinks he's scum. They probably think that only the Osages would elect someone who does things like that to be the Asst. Chief. It reflects badly on all of us.
Good chance whatever is missing could be along side a box of my family artifacts and old pictures in New York City , on the floor of the New Yorker's writer David Grann office. It is my understanding the floor of his office is full of material provided by Osages, years of research on the FBI and Osage Murders and ect. So, it could be there, I'm not right all the time ,just most. H
I would like to thank the Osage Mineral Trust Beneficiaries for considering me and for voting for me in the June 2, 2014 Minerals Council election. Although I didn’t make the cut, you have wisely elected a Council that is heavily weighted toward oil field experience and business experience. That is exactly what I was hoping you would do. There will be differences of opinion among them, but that can be a good thing at times. What we need now is to get all the new ideas out there and start chewing on them a little. I expect to see great things coming from this Council over the next 4 years. As for me, I plan to keep right on doing what I’ve been doing as long as I see a need. I really want to be there to see the good things start happening. If you believe nothing else I have said over the last 3 years, believe this: Osages, you really do need to know. Please take an interest in your inheritance. Learn where it comes from and what it takes to make things work. Less than 25% of the eligible beneficiaries voted in this last election. That’s the sad part. We must teach our children how things work and find a way to get them interested in someday participating in the management of this precious asset they will own a part of. Again, thank you very much for your support and your vote.
Thanks for running Ray, and for all the work you do to keep the Shareholders informed about what's happening out in the oil field. It doesn't go unnoticed or unappreciated. You had my vote Monday and if you run for Council in future, you will have it again.
Trying to reply to Ray McClains post. For sure most thought you had a foot already in the door. Thank you for your dedication and we need more of you on the same page. Maybe next time.
The Osage News is reporting that Osage Inauguration Day will be held on July 2, 2014. See http://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/osage-nation-congress-special-session-14-information More events are located at http://osagenews.org/events
Looks like they can handle it, keeping a eye on each other may cut down on the pillaging everyone was accusing the other of, that's the incomplete and under the bridge "French" havot-pillage. H
I've made it quite clear for MONTHS that you are not going to use the Osage Blog as a whipping post to drub Cynthia everytime you turn around. That's it and that's all. I notice with other web sites like Facebook that you don't do this because you aren't allowed to there either. You have other places to go and things to do. You want to start a blog or Facebook page to bash Cynthia, that's your business. Not here and that's final. You look like a sore loser who has done everything you can to obsessively target the only woman Council Person on the Second Mineral Council. It didn't work then and it won't work now because she has supporters who like her agenda and she was the second highest vote getter in the Minerals Council election on June 2, 2014. Enough is enough and as far as we are concerned, it's entirely too much.
Thanks to Jim Gray and his reservation lawsuit that failed, we are witness to the back and forth on the wind farm issue -- http://barnsdalltimes.com/http:/barnsdalltimes.com/news/two-fronts-wind-appeal-no-2-filed
Since we seem to be going back into Iraq, at least on a limited basis, this web page of Foreign Affairs Backgrounders may be of interest. See http://www.cfr.org/publication/by_type/backgrounder.html?cid=nlc-public-special_announcement-link2-20140616&sp_mid=46217052&sp_rid=dGluYS5yLmFsbGVuQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0S0
Guess! we can all agree about 25% of the Mineral Right Shareholders being Non-Osage , but has any research ever been done on how many of these court cases have been financed by the land grappling ranchers. I'd say 25%, do I hear 50%, after reading the Barnsdall Times article on the wind farms, and the quote gave a good price for the indian land. Who too the attorneys?? H
Thank you! If the BLM isn't going to be checking wells any more than the BIA, why do we need new CFRs that include BLM regulations? What good will it do other than layer on more regulations with no improvement in the end results. What kind of a scam is this now? Galen?
For obvious reasons we do need the change to take effect. The BIA is and are aware of the delays in administration and out on the field. Once every producer is in alignment with said changes no longer can they dismiss or by pass or flare without being compensated for other resources, and with proper installation of new meters and so forth.....will give us accurate reading only then we will bw aware of how much money has gone unaccounted for....I posted that comment only to confirm why we got the settlement in the first place. Did you notice in the article our name was not mentioned? We have 4000 wells long overdue the upgrades, had to happen. Why would anyone gripe about getting a bigger royalty check?
The U.S. Patent Office has canceled six trademarks belonging to the Washington Redskins football team, saying they are offensive to Native Americans. In a decision released today, the office's Trademark Trial and Appeal Board ruled that the "that these registrations must be canceled because they were disparaging to Native Americans." The board also said it lacked the authority to prevent the team from continuing to use the trademarks. The decision came in response to a suit brought by what the board called "five Native Americans."
Yeah, I read that, it would have been different if the patent benefited Indian Country. But, it didn't. I kinda saw this image as we were and always will be apart of a never ending fight to the end and not so much as disparaging but a face that kept us in Indian Counrty letting America not to forget who was here first. Times change and hope is indefinite.
More "Gray Days" for other Tribal Communities>>> http://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/news/tribal/9939-delaware-chief-survives-day-in-court-now-faces-possible-recall-petition
Are you serious? Anything they touch is poisoned. After four years the guy was Chief of the Osage Nation with all he got up to and you don't know this?
Meant to be sarcasim. Really though, Indian Country appears to be getting wind of the Grays,... leaving a foul taste. Still would like to know why the Grays Contract was terminated? And curious as to what the current Chief of the Delaware thinks about the petition for recall that is circulating? Why would you cancel a contract that had a life spand of just four months left?
Wanted to think you again for the quick return call. The information provided proved to be true. As a matter of fact my father owned a few wells going back as far as 25 years ago. Yeah I know how did this get lost, especially probate was closed 17 yrs ago. And the Producer is working with us. Will be selling the divided interest. Thanks. One Shareholder that is happy with this M.E council member.
OMG! You can't find a single thing on that new Tribal web site and now they have maintenance web pages up all over the place. Who is responsible for this web site because it's just awful? Did Raymond Red Corn or any of his sons have anything to do with this one like they did with one fat buffalo?
Hope that changes in time. Be glad to see new faces. And hope that all will remember what they are elected for. Karma can hurt. Can lots a changes be moving forward. After July 1st, lots of changes.
To be more correct, the MC voted to put in place rules to protect MC office employees from being harassed in the office and to insure a non-hostile and safe work environment. They are after all MC employees and should be able to come to work and do their job without fear of being yelled at and harassed. If ANYONE has a complaint they should take it up with the office manager or the MC chairman. Glad to see this put in place, it's only right and should have been done a long time ago!
I do agree with you. Established policies are long overdue. I guess this is to keep a particular patern of someones long overdue personality is going to be in check. With the new M.C. coming in they will have a front seat to this behavior. Now documentation can be recorded in a employee file and looks to me 3 violations and your out....well at least in the real world of office politics...we shall see how long this will last. As I've said before the shareholder's are tired of some of the unfortunate unprofessional behavior of some....if u know what I mean.
What is going to be interesting to watch. is there were problems in the 1st MC with this person and one of our new elected MC members was on the 1st MC. So this behavior will come as no surprise. IMO the violation threshold has already been surpassed. No employee or anyone else for that matter should have to be subjected to such harassment and hostility without due course of the legal system. If this were to go on in a no-Indian work place, Federal laws would come into place and they may still?
More bad news certain members of the MC will choose to ignore>>> http://journalrecord.com/2014/06/18/salty-language-osage-county-landowners-producers-argue-over-operators-manual-energy/
To osageblooger...The poster on June 19 at 10:59 AM referenced a web site "journalrecord.com" etc, etc, etc. Why cant these references to web sites be put on the blog in such a way that we can simply click on them and bring them up rather than having to write the entire thing down and then type it in somewhere else? Other forums are able do it. That's a lot of rigamarole to go thru when it could be made much simpler. I would venture to say, the way it is discourages people from following through to see what the information is.
Yes. Cut and paste is what we do and it works very well for us too. When Google makes their Blogspot Blogs able to accept live links in comments, we will let you know.
Advantage M.E. The ruling will be in favor for Osage there can be no other decision. This is by no means a blanket statement. This born from the Settlement. We all believe in preserving the land....but this falls back on the producers right it's not like they are new to regulations just not following the rules because of the laxed environment at the Helm, The BIA. I'm sure what ever was lost in translation will be defined by the newly written CFR'S and there will be no more excuses, well I won't hold my breath on the last part...Everyone should now understand that compliance is long overdue.
First off>> I agree with poster "To osageblooger" today at 2:51 PM and secondly>>>what ruling is the 12:51 post talking about? Is it the site referred to by the 10:59 post? This is all so confusing not being able to directly click on a suggested site to read. Surely this would be a worth while improvement to the blog site.
I believe I was talking about the waiting period or comment period for the changes to the CFR'S. Proposals presented by the land owners and producers for consideration either in addition to or not does not matter.
Glad to see Ray McClain is back to posting.....in my opinion these rules for the Staff should have been established years ago. Boone can now rest in peace proper protocol is established and will have to adhere or face removal,now that documentation will be noted. But failure to comply I'm not hereing the consequnce of said behavior? Policy and procedure and consequnce should be better defined, just my opinion. But this is a start in the right direction. Hostility makes it hard to want to work in that type of office environment....that being said, I'm thankful that production is up and though I'm perplexed, if a landowner is holding up production can they be held liable for the delay and cover our costs of administration fees and etc...? It is so obvious, that M.E. has the right of way....they knew way ahead of time that we could drill on or near the property when they purchased their land and signed the dotted line...really...With a new gas tax on the horizon sure to raise the price of gasoline I do see the price per gallon dropping but only marginally. Gasoline was predicted last year to rise to $5.00 gallon. And we are almost there. The new norm I suspect or speculate. Go to Osages-you-need-to-know.com. Another great post by Ray Ray...thank you.
KING: Osage Minerals Councilwoman Cynthia Boone has hired an attorney to fight "harassment" from fellow council members. A recent resolution passed by the Second OMC reads that "Boone be banned from the office area except when absolutely necessary to attend duly called Council and Committee meetings and collecting official communications from Council mailbox; and that she cease all direct contact with office staff, instead directing all legitimate requests through the Council Chairman and or office manager." Boone was the only woman on the Second OMC and is the only council member to be elected for three consecutive terms. Osage News story to follow.
Will Kemble: Wow
Matthew Gray: Oh snap....it's getting real in the hill....
54 mins . BREAKING: Osage Minerals Councilwoman Cynthia Boone has hired an attorney to fight "harassment" from fellow council members. A recent resolution passed by the Second OMC reads that "Boone be banned from the office area except when absolutely necessary to attend duly called Council and Committee meetings and collecting official communications from Council mailbox; and that she cease all direct contact with office staff, instead directing all legitimate requests through the Council
It is the business of office management to choose to hire anyone they want...I for one believe in office training experience and cross training for a efficient office. A happy office gets the work done....life is stressful enough without adding more confusion. And we want a working environment that is peaceful as well for our M.C members....keep up the vreat work M.C.
I believe Andrew and Galen have done an excellent job of putting in place regulations to control harassment in the work place without bringing out in the open what most of us knew already concerning what has been going on. I'm sure most of us have been at a point sometimes in our life where it is better to take our medicine and keep our mouth shut rather than expose ourselves to more embarrassment. This may be that time for Ms. Boone. IF...IF..this were to go to trial there is plenty of documentation to justify why these regulations were put in place and the documentation can go back for years and may expose Ms. Boone to Federal charges of work place harassment and expose her unstable professional behavior for all to hear about. She might best might want to lay low, follow the regulations and get on with her life ?
Well, they are talking about this non sense from the first M.C.to now the current M.C. so, 12 it is and obviously the M.C. and or? has been keeping records of this behavior against the staff. Evidence speaks louder than words. Mark my words the staff who have left because of the harassment, chronicled the dates I'm sure, personally, this happened to I, as well. Staff also witnessed. Long and endure but had to be logged. New Management came in. But with that being said, in the long run I came out not the victim. Man I had never seen such bad form in my entire career and boy did I learn what work ethics meant lesson learned from a very bad person on how not to be. In the office their is what is call standard protocol, if you are not compliant then you are in subordinate and qualifies you for termination. This protects you and your employees. Change had to come and as a Shareholder this cancer of behavior is not a conducive environment we want for our M.E or for that matter the M.C.
I am quite sure that If this goes to court as someone suggested, it might...Cynthia will be letting the Genni out of the box and she won't be able to put it back in. If I were her friend, I would advise her to leave things alone. Putting rules and regulations in place to insure a non-hostile work environment is by no means "Harassment"
That is a personnel issue and not the concern of a M.C its called know your place. Ethics.....what people do on their own time is there own business as long as performance related problems at work such as habitual tardiness , and so forth...this is the only reason why their should be random testing...we cannot perpetuate a hostile work environment. We should not be here having this discussion if the standard was set in the first place....
I encourage everyone to read the latest post by Ray McClain on his site "Osages-You-Need-to-Know. Its a good summary of the MC meetings on June 13 and 18. In his post he tells what the recent resolutions are that passed addressing "Anti-Hostility Workplace Policy" These should have been in place long ago. Of course Whitehorn, Boone , Bear voted NO and Red Eagle abstained. At least three of these did not get re-elected and won't be back.
I'm happy that Ray has posted his take on the meetings but I would like to hear them myself. I finally got to this web page after looking everywhere on the Nation's new web site -- http://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/minerals-council On the right side of the page, the live audio is highlighted but not the audio for on demand. When are they going to get the lead out and put up the audio recordings of past meetings for those of us who actually have to work during the week? This web site is no communication tool anymore for Osages like it should be. Who do you have to contact to make things happen around there?
You need to look left on the page where it says Mineral Council Meeting Information and click on that link which will take you to this web page: http://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/minerals-council/meeting-information All the Audio and Agendas are listed there for on demand downloads and listening. Good for the IT Department for providing all of these meetings online since August of 2013.
Speak for yourself. RACKLIFF, DENA MARIE: TRIBAL CHARGE: FAILURE TO OBEY COURT ORDER TRIBAL CHARGE: PERJURY http://www.ocso.net/booking/February2014.xml Plus http://www.ocso.net/booking/January2014.xml ole PSB aint got the full story out there yet. Councilman Andrew Yates called the Tribal police on Cynthia because she had come into the office to conduct Minerals Business for the Shareholders and that dumb yokel called the Tribal Police. The policeman who arrived told Yates the Tribal Police can't be used for enforcement of office policy and procedures set by Mineral Council resolutions and to get a Federal Court order which they can't because they are such wimps and bullies. That PSB you people are believing is in league with these reckless macho MC men who are backing a jailbird who dont show up to court and tells lies to the court. Perjury is a serious charge. Get smart people and at least give the hounded Council member the benefit of the doubt.
You don't suppose the "hounded Council member" might be a touch mentally un-stable? The evidence and actions over the years, would seem to indicate such.
Falling back on the old, if you disagree with a woman call her unstable or even go so far as to mistake her courage for insanity? Do you really think ploys like that will work anymore? Give us a break!
It listed Cynthia as the aggressor in the unfounded and frivolous charge brought by Yates for which, among other things, he along with the others involved are being sued. The police officer set Yates' cap back on straight and left. All documented! Cynthia and her attorney need to take a big bite out of the cash in the saddlebags of Sonny Abbott who is behind most of it anyway.
Frankly, I hope this does go to trial. I can think of nothing more embarrassing, for Cynthia, than for all this to come out in the open. Additionally, there is rumor that Mia, who works for the police dept is funneling police information to the Osage News. Call Shannon Shaw to check. If that's going on she should be fired!
If Cynthia was a man this wouldn't be happing, I'd already knocked the hell out of some of those men. But Cynthia needs to quiet down some too. I hope this can be settled. But those guys are too aggressive. I ve seen it in person. Cynthia has worked very hard for us.
I too wish Cynthia was a man and did knock to daylights out of "those men" as you put it and then she would go to jail for assault ! Also it matters not that she is a woman. The regulations were put in place to insure a "Non-Hostile Work Place"
One oh s*** cleans the atta boy slate clean....all the good, means nothing and everything she has done will not ne remembered but her aggression will be. I've do agree wheather there is merit or not which I believe in the later wheather real or not she needs help and not legal and I agree with another poster that this should be exposed. I personally want her removed and I want the M.C. to set two term limits...as well. I believe in those boys on the hill you just cant make this stuff up...we as Shareholders in the first should know you have a voice and we should make changes when needed. And they need our support....we want Integrity. The solution is simple. If she does not comply with said rules hold her hostile to the M.E. which means she is hostile towards the Shareholders and remove her period...
In addition, we should thank Osageblogger for allowing us a voice on this matter, it can no longer be ignored but you can choose better words and solutions as opposed to going on a diatribe. Remember there is always two sides I am on the side of resolve, once and for all the Shareholders will prevail.
You people that are defending Cynthia are off the wall ! How can you possibly defend work place harassment. stalking. lying, the turmoil she causes and defiant attitude when she was asked to stop her disruption of the office. I don't get it! As other posters have said...this really needs to go to trial and get all of her actions out in the open. Sad to say but it sounds like you approve of her actions. If you were on the receiving end of her actions I'll bet the farm you would be singing a different tune.
Don't let them get your goat....most shareholders with common sense understand that you and meaning we don't know who is posting here. For all you know the people who might be posting might be the very same person who we are discussing right...cooler heads need to prevail and so should the Shareholders.
From what I understand there is a written complaint in the works to the police dept.concerning Mia sending unsolicited police information to the Osage News as well as posting the information on this blog. Granted the information may be public record but it's not her job to go spreading it around. The rumor is that she did so at a MC members request. Guess who?I don't know Dena that well but understand she is a single mother supporting two kids. As long as she is doing her job, and she seems to be, her personal problems should be her business. For Mia to drag Dena through the dirt is hateful and mean ! I thought better of her but I guess I was mistaken.
The word is out there about this incident spreading around and what those bully boys are up to. I posted the information right here and it has nothing to do with Mia. How many charity jobs with the Nation are being given out in that office? They have to be able to do the work and get it done right. One of them in there filing her nails got so far behind on her behind they had to hire two or three more eyeCandies in there to try and catch up and she was sending out paperwork on trusts that was wrong and not getting the job done right for real shareholders. It's a real mess in there and swishing skirts and eyeCandy just dont get it. You are defending people who don't need to even be in there in that office and one of them is back who also got picked up for drugs a year or more ago. If Cynthia rides hard on those smiling like for the camera simps then more power to her. Someone has to get the work done for the shareholders on their trusts and these girlies don't have a clue. Telling shareholders how to do it from the point of view of those who live home and not how the shareholders want their trust prepared!!!!!! Its disgusting in there and not even legal to make those kinds of suggestions to shareholders. All those trust responsibilities should be taken away from that office and prepared out of the BIA Solicitors Office in Tulsa as far away from Pawhuska as you can get to protect the estate interests of those shareholders who want a trust prepared. 60 trusts backlogged and 40 of them stuffed in a drawer! You think you and those bullies can justify this hideous lack of professionalism in that office that those men are tolerating by having those silly skirts in there? The BIA needs to launch an investigation because the Trustee of every one of those trusts is the Secretary of the Interior. Don't think those Councilmen would hop up and down to and fro then. We need this investigation to happen now. Where is the Osage Congress with a Special designated Committee to investigate what is going on in that office right now before the BIA sweeps in to get a good look at the situation and we get in even more trouble than we're in with them already. Mess Mess Mess Mess Mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pull your heads out and find out what is really going on in this office. Most of them should all be fired and charity tranfered to offices where the work doesn't matter so much legally. It's your estate matters shareholders and you need to know the real true story.
Who holds the Mineral Council responsible if they aren't doing estate and Trust business for the Shareholders correctly and in a timely manner? The new Chief? Who do you file a complaint with? Mine must be one of the 60 Trusts mentioned. I hear making changes to an originally filed trust is nearly impossible. I also hear people are dying before these trusts are being completed and they aren't legal if they haven't been finished and finalized. This is terrible. How do you go over the heads of the Mineral Council office? The BIA Solicitor's Office? The old BIA Superintendent would rarely ever return a phone call unless Cynthia called her to get busy and call back. This is so weird. You call the IIM office in Albuquerque and they always seem to have it in order. Is anyone else having the same problems with their trusts in the MC office? We must have a shakeup in there to get things back on track with the Osage Nation Minerals Office if they ever were to begin with. If the Minerals Councilmen are running it then they have to be held responsible for what those women are doing or not doing properly. Like one member of the Osage Congress says, a pile of poo poo behind every single door at the Osage Nation you try to open. I can sure smell it all the way out to California.
Never said that either it starts with management. All of you have the duty to call the chairman of the M.C and find out for yourselves how long it should take a trust to be processed and etc....and logged any complaint.
Took about an hour in person but didn't need to take that long if the Trust prepper had paid any attention to what they were told I wanted to do. I was told that the trust process after my demise takes three months start to finish, avoid probate, the whole thing. Not so. Takes a year with those people at the Osage Agency dragging it out before it goes to Albuquerque where it takes about a month once they get the paperwork. Not like Osages are dropping dead in droves. No excuse for any of it.
Yeah I know what you mean and really once a trust is processed for approval can take up to 3 mo's from start to finish....and really if all your documentation is in order it shouldn't even take that long...it took 2 years for the trust to be disbursed from the Estate and of course this was 17 years ago and kid you not the will was well documented, till we threatened to sue....there was absolutely no reason for the wait period. The ball can no longer be dropped. You do this by making sure your staff is well versed. With management in tow...that means running weekly and monthly reports to be sure that your staff is doing what they should be...doing...
The Chairman? Yates? He's in league with the Feds to end run those proposed CFRs through as soon as he can. Do you think he cares about your trust or anybody elses? Oh Yeah!!!!! Don't wait for that to happen. I'd be surprised if they even have a single progress report form in that office. You're talking about an Osage run government with offices that rarely if ever pick up the phone and rarely if ever return a phone call. I think I heard sometime back that a story was making it through the grapevine that an actual member of Congress had to send one of those Osage Nation offices an actual fax to get someone to call him back. What Standing Bear needs to realize is that most Osages are either too disgusted to call and receive bad treatment, not get what they need or want done without going to a lot of trouble to get it, or are just simply afraid to try and deal with Osage workers who act like they are too good to have to do anything for anybody. This is rampant in this monster that they created when they went with the Constitution and broke away from any of the Federal Regulations that applied in running Tribal government that may have applied before the change took place. Standing Bear and the rest of that Congress have been paying these people top dollar with raises and bonuses year after year before and after Merit went into effect, and I mean 18-20% above the highest Native American employer in Okla. and 36% above what workers in Oklahoma are paid. The same member of Congress who couldn't get a phone call answered was going around liberally quoting Thoreau with some quip like a government is only effective if the people don't want anything from it as if it should do only for those who work for it or add some benefit to it somehow rather than the government working for the Osage people whose needs it was created to serve in the first place. This is what you are up against up on the Hill and I don't really think Geoffrey has the cojones to clean it up. He has always left me with the impression that down deep he's afraid of these people who work for the Nation and those Osages related to them in the larger community in the Villages. The next thing we'll hear is that everything is so wrong that there's no hope of getting it back on track or the job is too overwhelming and too many Osages will be harmed if they try to get things working properly and more unconscionable totally crap excuses just like it. Mess mess mess mess mess!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think he has the guts to do what's needed either which is to shut the whole thing down and do an across-the-board in-depth assessment of each Executive Branch office and what needs to be done to correct the problems found. They throw money at those Executive Branch budgets too that are so high if we knew the real numbers spent, we would all be calling the Congress to do an investigation of themselves and their spending practices. Guess how well that would go. Who investigates them? The Attorney General's Office? If he can't find misappropriation misconduct of some kind, he wouldn't be looking closely enough.
To the poster on June 22 at 12:39 PM While you were raving and ranting about "bullie boys" and "eyeCandy" you selectively failed to mention, that the person Cynthia highly recommended to work in the office ran out the door when she found out there was a random drug test coming. After she failed to come back and was fired there were 40 or more trust documents found stuffed in the back of one of the drawers of her desk
People can recommend all day long yea or nay. It's the one who did the hiring that's on the hook here. Who told you Cynthia made a recommendation anyway? That's privileged information on account of employee privacy. You couldn't possibly know a thing like that unless you were the one who did the hiring? I don't believe it anyway.
It's common knowledge on the hill and in the office who recommended that woman and was far from privilege information. But what's the point if you are not going to look into it and wouldn't believe the facts anyway. This is old news!
There is nothing old about the Osage...just a different day..the point is and I have been saying it for awhile...there is a problem with incompetence at the maanagement level...the criteria may be set..but the standard for evaluation has fallen through the cracks..in other words we need to hire better management...just because your Osage, or have more Headrights...or your family history and ties with the Osage Triibe, does not give you your experience and truly this is a problem. Cynthia...as a overzealous M.C, who's inappropriate behavior set the new Standard long overdue....of which their really wasn't one in place till now...she took upon herself initiatives with out clearance...Our M.C are to ensure our assets and liabilities are secure and coupled with providing a healthy image. We are the ones the Shareholder's in the first must must not let the ball drop sorta speak ...we are the ones to govern our M.Cbetter word..help direct with everyone's suppot in tow...
You're invited to the MC Inauguration ceremonies on July 1, 2014: See https://www.facebook.com/OsageNews/photos/a.153834188010750.33094.134873493240153/716452581748905/?type=1
Set the date...Osage Shareholders Association will be held Aug 17 ay Dave Landrum.....We need to get acquainted with the new MC...Let's have a good showing!!!!! Remember Aug 17 1:00 Dave Landrum.......Mary Lee
Seems to me, these are highly qualified people. It was their right to donate to the person they supported and doesn't make them less qualified. Why don't we wait and see how they do their jobs before starting a lynch mob.
The Inauguration for the MC 3 will be on Tuesday July 1st. It will be proceeded by a Catholic Mass. Quite a serious and formal event. Several of us will be there that were not at the last Inauguration and will be very interested to hear the language of the swearing in ceremony. We will be curious if it includes language something along the line of upholding the rules, regulations and resolutions as set forth by the MC. Don't see how one MC member can raise their hand and take such a oath when they are already ignoring and not following some of the resolutions already in place !
Thank you for keeping us in the know, much appreciated, though I am curious of which resolutions you are talking about? Can you please let us know so it is documented. And this should be a big event...after all, in my opinion, The 1906 act is alive and well and the oath they will take understand they will be held accountable. So this is serious and giving thanks is a humble event. Wish I could be there anyother time I would be, big event's happening fhis year that cover huge costs like weddings.
Oh please!!!!!!!!! The Principal here is the second highest majority elected Member of the Mineral Council, not those incompetent eyeCandies that gang up and manipulate those MC men in the office to feel sorry for them and let them get away with wholesale murder. Shutting the office down early because it's been a hard week for the office girls!!!!!!!! Give us a break. You are supporting this complete lack of professionalism in that office by those office girls and this is to the detriment of all of the shareholders. Get rid of them. Get women in there who don't do drugs and don't tell lies. Things will begin to run smoothly as soon as you do.
In reply to the post 6-29 5:35. Have you been living under a rock and refuse to acknowledge the turmoil that one MC member has brought to the MC office with total disregard for the resolutions voted on and passed by the MC ? You are in total denial.
That person is and probably from the same family that supports that persons abuse of power without clearance....we understand what has transpired and it only takes one to spoil the rest of the apples, sorta speak....these resolutions are made to support and facilitate a good work environment to protect everyone involved. End...it is obvious that this person does not understand good work ethics.
Oh Please !!! Just because a person gets a lot of votes in an election, does not give them license to run amok and violate MC resolutions. We will all be watching to see how they act after the MC3 opens up. Maybe they will rip their britches, violate enough rules and resolutions and get removed from office like JRE did.
P.S. The person in question has left a long trail of lies and half truths. So, if we are going to get rid of people that lie...there would be a good place to start.
I understand this is only a rumor so far...but can anyone tell us what qualifications Libby Gray has to reform policies and procedures of the HR dept ? I was hopping that we had seen the last of the Gray's in any way shape or form.
Such bogus trumped up violations are unenforceable. Those girls don't run that office. The members of the Minerals Council do and if those pansy men in charge had gotten after those lazy gals in there, it would never have come to any of this in the first place. Cause and effect or don't you know what that means? They have to work for a living and for what they're paid to do. Is all this over your head?
The inauguration went well except Stephanie was up front talking while other MC members were being sworn in. Totally inappropriate and disrespectful .... but what would one expect?
My My, here you all go again. I guess now we will start on another MC member, don't you all ever stop complaining about stuff? Aren't you ever happy about anything in your lives. It's a new MC, and let's see how things are going to go before we start picking on others.
Just pointing out dis-respectable behavior. When another MC member is getting sworn in by the judge, they should be shown the courtesy and respect of not talking to others in the back ground. It's called common sense and being polite. Even people in the audience were respectable of the occasion. It's basically called good manners. :)
I understand that minutes are not being taken by hand for the Minerals Council meetings....what if someone pushes a wrong buttin or if someone wants to delete a part of the tape...The proper way to handle the minutes is to take them by a responsible person and preserve them..We are dealing with a Multi Million Dollar business and we must deal with it in a Multi Million Dollar way...Let the MC members know that we expect them to deal with OUR MultiMillion Dollar business in a Multi Million Dollar way!!!!
Everyone...write to the MC members..Written Minutes are necessary for any MultiMillion Dollar Business and we must remember that this is a Business! And a Mujlti Million Dollar one !!!! If someone pushed the wrong button everything is lost...or if someone wants to delete a part...then no one has anything to go one...Who amongst us remembers all the details..
Election Day TODAY! From years past experience, it's a wonderful time to be in the Osage and a better party you won't find on the planet! Fry Bread. Meat Pies. Lemonade. Fried Chicken. Election tents. Family and friends to visit with and see again. Candidates collected there on Campus to talk with. What a time is always is... Not to miss! We'll be here on station so let us know how it's going. We'll report the Minerals election results as soon as we possibly can.
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DeleteYou may think you know who that candidate Jackie Jones is, but I doubt it since she makes a big effort to hide her evil unethical ways and intentions - most of her family will most likely be voting her way but most people know better not to I hope and pray. However, those of you that don't know - she works up at the Osage Nation in constituent services. She hires nonosages and has no education to run a department. She was given her job by her uncle Chief Jim Gray and got an immediate promotion of her position when her uncle Ex-chief Redeagle got into office. Redeagle and his sidekick Diedre Bigheart (who happens to be best friends with Jackie's Mom and an alley of Jackie herself before the given promotion). She
Deletewas initially hired to assist the chief's executive secretary to help answer phone's all day. That was and is all she is qualified to do. But remember, Redeagle had
hired some of his niece's in positions they couldn't possible qualify for on their own
merit. Anyway, the big closeted problem with this lady is that she creates gossip
and conflict within the nation every chance she gets. She looks down on Osages if they cannot serve her purpose and is an overall unnice person. In order for a person to be able to like other people they need to start out liking themselves. In her
position this type of behavioral issue can well become and has been a roadblock
for may Osage people that cross this lady's path. Her attitude alone would turn
away the best of her intentions to say the least. She even fired an osage just to hire her nonosage sisterinlaw. She can control her sisterinlaw and that is what she hungers for - control. And not in a good way.
Voting for Jackie Jones would be like handing the keys back to that snake Deidre Bigheart and that whole crew. It wouldn't be morally right.
OMG!!! I voted for Cynthia Boone today, just for being there for us shareholders in Washington. Very good day for election too.
DeleteDon't believe u. Lol
DeleteI believe you because so did I! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! Go Cynthia!!!!!!
DeleteHow stupid can you get? Cynthia was in Washington on behalf or the producers. I guess our vote against Cynthai off set yours.
DeleteI could say the same about you.
DeleteI think people are real tired of the RedCorn/Gray dynasty.
ReplyDeleteThat's true.
DeleteSo done.
DeleteThe Osage News is reporting that Andrew Yates, Cynthia Boone, Talee RedCorn, Kathryn Red Corn, Joe Cheshewalla, Everett Waller, Galen Crum and Stephanie Erwin are elected to be the 3rd Osage Mineral Council.
ReplyDeleteSee photo of Minerals Council Election Ballot Results at http://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/unofficial-general-election-results
DeleteStill waiting on the General Election Results. Another site is reporting a problem with one of the voting machines and a hand count of the ballots has begun. It may be 6:00 a.m., before the results are available. We cannot confirm that this information is correct.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/unofficial-general-election-results
DeleteSad day for the Osage people
Geoffrey Standing Bear has been elected Principal Chief and Raymond Red Corn has been elected Assistant Principal Chief. We have two members of the Osage Nation Congress retained; Alice Buffalohead and Kugee Supernaw, and four new Congressional members; Ron Shaw, Angela Pratt, Otto Hamilton, and James Norris. Congratulations to all of the winners! We extend our gratitude to all who ran in this election who did not win. You stood up and put yourselves forward in the effort to serve the Osage people and we thank and greatly admire all of you for having done so.
DeleteCongrats indnlawyer our new Chief. Hope you will still post here.
DeletePredication as far as two years ago, now Chief Geoffrey Standing Bear, would win with a total of 1800 votes, actually won the race with 1615 votes. Oh! two out of of the three women I posted for Osage Mineral Council made it, and the third came in very close ninth.
DeleteThoroughly enjoyed the give and take in the political relish of theses races. Your talented writers, what can one say, but another time.
Myself , working on a blackberry story, with pictures to be posted. H
See http://osagenews.org/article/geoffrey-standing-bear-and-raymond-red-corn-elected-chief-and-assistant-chief
DeleteSee also for new Minerals Council information: http://osagenews.org/article/voters-elect-eight-serve-third-osage-minerals-council
DeleteJune 3, from 9am to 4pm, a meeting for Cobell pay out, at Otoe-Missouria Community Build....8151 Hwy 177....in Red Rock, Ok. Bring IIM acct. numbers & questions about payouts. I want to know about the interest on my money. This is tomorrow!!! Go to Indianz.com web site. Their may be something in Ok paper in the morning.
ReplyDeleteWell this is today...sorry. day late. Too much going on here at election. Hope somebody got to go..let us know what was said, please.
DeleteWe were told once the the final distribution was approved the settlement would be distributed in 30 days from the court decision, now I heard it will be 3 mos from now is that true or is there just going to be delay after delay? I will not be able to attend. Could someone please ask this question please.
DeleteRed Rock is south of Ponca City on 117. Or north on 177 from Stillwater or hwy 412. On west side of 177. They will close at 4pm.
DeleteI went to Red Rock today, they said it will take 6 wks. to get the accounts ready to make out checks to be sent to all the people. Then, after that, it will take up to 3 mos. to get everyone paid. In all, they said within 90 days you should have a check. I got to see the missing years on my account, they had no figures that I ever got a payment, also there were years of part totals that not all 4 pymts were posted. This is OSTs fault for not keeping records. I figure about 5 to $7000 is missing just in my account. But I'd have to prove I got that money. Sooo, I'll spend some time at my bank, looking for old deposit slips and records for proof the next six weeks. The people were nice, and seen the problems with the OST!!!...Hope this helps some of you. Also the interest goes back into the big pot, not to us.
DeleteI'm not going to hold my breath. What happened with Ok keeping shotty records or if any at all as far as can tell the DOI'S reason for the lapse or there of for the excuse for the great incompetence? I to had to self identify but my syblings did not have to self identify go figure huh? And then had to call the Osage County Clerks office for final account on our past Grandmothers estate to identify the Estate as well and to me this is so News Worthy. Who's accountable.? We know the debacle with the VA scandal I feel this is in the same context with the exception that this issue with the loss of untold billions and those who suffered at the hands of the Gov.
DeleteThank you in addition foer sharing your information.
DeleteThe Osage News is reporting that Amendments 13-19, 13-20 and 13-22 have passed in the 2014 election. Amendments 14-03, 14-04 and 14-05 failed to garner 65 percent of the "yes" vote.
ReplyDeleteIf all went well today at the ON Election Board Emergency Special Meeting, the unofficial election results for the General Election should be certified. See http://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/events/election-board-emergency-special-meeting#zoom=9&lat=36.4257&lon=-96.66046&layers=T0B00 and https://www.facebook.com/OsageNews/photos/pcb.708115072582656/708114979249332/?type=1
DeleteThank you Osageblogger, curious as to what you think about ONCA 13-19 and ONCA 13-22. How is it that the Nation only obligate to the Osage Headriight owners yet we are all Osage. Is this not discrimination? The M.E. was left to us inherited does not make the Headright owner any more Osage or less than the next Osage next to me. Is the Membership going to change again? So, what we turn a blind eye on our fellow brother and sisters?
ReplyDeleteWhile everyone has been busy with this election there has been changes to the federal laws that will affect the Osage head right holder tremendously. We no longer have our own CFR regulations that pertain to our uniqueness. We are categorized as one of those tribes that did not pay for their lands and those that are soon to be unrecognized. We used to have a whole sec. just for us. 25 CFR SEC. 117 AND 17 FOR Actions on Will of Osage Indians. So looks like it is going to happen just really soon. The Osage 1906 allotment Act is now the Osage Tribe of Indians of Oklahoma surplus land Act of June 28th, 1906. This used to be the Osage Allotment Act of June 26th, 1906. Every act has been changed. The 1912 act which governed probate has been messed with so much you can't even recognize it. The superintendent now can decide how things will be inherited by a family settlement and if a non compos mentos writes a Will and they are allowing a senile person to write one then it does not have to be approved by the state district court but one that is made by any Osage has to be approved by the state district court first which means there isn't even any since in writing a Will. The BIA and State are going to take it away from any heirs you have by the ability to sell it and take it out of restriction at any time and give anybody their competency papers and the superintendents final decision is final. So that is what your congressmen and chiefs have done for the last 3 administrations. The thing is we could possibly get these things voided because there was suppose to be a comment period and a review period of which they did not inform anybody and allow us to comment on it so they just took all of your rights away folks.
ReplyDeleteHog wash.
DeleteI agree.
DeleteWell, I'm concerned and confused for two reasons. If a non-Osage spouse inherits, what then? In addition, it makes sense to me that the Osage Nation can only have any authority or autonomy over Osage Nation members where the Mineral Estate is involved period as per the Constitution prior to the Amendment. Now, If I understand this correctly the Osage Nation has only the right to protect the headright owners of Osage descent. This appears to me to open it up (ME income rights protection) to more than just Osage Nation members. (?) Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I think it's important to know what the Congressional intent of this amendment is as well.
DeleteI think the right to membership amendment has corrected what should have been in the ON Constitution from the very beginning.
I may be incorrect, but this is the way I understand it. I am Osage and my spouse is white.Before my death I can set up the paper work so that when I die my spouse can have the use of my headright until their death. Upon the spouse d3eath then the headright goes to our children who are Osage. The surviving spouse would never own the headright but only have use of it. This has to be set up ahead of time and you could contact the Osage Nation or the BIA to see how to do this. In either case, I believe yo have to declare how you want your headright handled?
DeleteUnless it changes but you are correct.
DeleteWhat my point was and is, is that the Osage Nation can and will protect your headright income interest but not that of your wife if she is not of Osage descent. This is now clarified by this new amendment to the Constitution. I'm not sure what this means legally or what effect it will actually have as the BIA is the one who distributes the Headright payments.
DeleteThis action needs to be furthered looked at as I do see some implications or better word I'm seeing the ramifications Osageblogger.
DeleteWas that the intent? Where if any where does State Law come into effect, after all the Reservation Case was lost?
DeleteNo this is a Federal matter under the 1906 Allotment Act. You can read in the Osage News (hard copy) Volume 10, Issue 5 - May 2014; the amendments verbatim in the Sample Ballot on page 16 and the next page gives you an explanation of each of the amendments and what they are supposed to mean.
DeleteThank you Osageblogger.
DeleteJulie and I want to thank everyone who participated in our Osage Nation election. We just came home after picking up campaign signs in the East, North, and West of the Osage. That's almost 200 miles of main roads. We will cover the South tomorrow. We stopped by the Grayhorse Village where the camps are already up or were being set up. It is a joyful sight. It has been a wonderful experience meeting so many Osages these past 9 months. The trail has been through all our communities here at the Osage and to meetings in California, Texas, Kansas, and many places in Oklahoma. You can see a great similarity among all the Osage people. We definitely are one family. I will serve you all to the best of my ability and with full effort. Our past is what binds us now, our future depends on our commitment to working together in the present.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations, Chief StandingBear! Believe this; we are committed to having a better Osage government that works and is run for the benefit of all of the Osage people. That's what we were promised eight years ago and if you can finally deliver on this promise to all of us, you will become a great leader and a well respected Chief of the Osages.
DeleteThanks for post Ing here Chief congrats.
DeleteI want to congratulate Geoff Standing Bear and Raymond Red Corn on their election as Principal Chief and Assistant Principal Chief. I also want to send very best regards to their able and worthy opponents, Margo Gray and Amanda Proctor, for a valiant run. I hope and believe the next few years will be a very productive and useful time for our Osage people, with excellent leadership from Chief Standing Bear and excellent Congressional liaison and counsel from Assistant Chief Red Corn, and strong and helpful legislative work from the newly elected members of Congress. I also congratulate Chief Justice Meredith Drent, and those who have confirmed her in that position. And finally, congratulations to the newly elected Mineral Council members, and Godspeed to them in taking good care of that very important responsibility.
DeleteWith all best wishes,
Carter Revard
ReplyDeleteCongratulations to all of our new Congress and Minerals Council...I have been proud to get to know many and see our people work together and I really enjoyed being at the elections and the great fellowship and food...All Osages would profit by being a part of the times together...Thanks to all I have met and Truly a great CO
NGRATULATIONS to our new Chiet and 'Assistant...Go get em tiger!!!! Show us what you can do to get us on the right tracks!!!
Here here!
DeleteNo matter who you voted for, isn't it a shame that we have to start out with an Assistant Chief that already has a cloud of deception and lack of transparency hanging over his head ! I don't pretend to know all there is to know about the rumors of him "Mis-placing" artifacts he took from the museum but with the museum board and the Osage news not coming forward with information about this, it cast some suspicion over what really happened. Add to that Raymond not coming forward with some sort of explanation it raises the question of Trust. As far as I am concerned this will always overshadow his term in office until this is addressed out in the open. It's a shame we have to start off where we left the JRE situation. NO trust, no honesty and no transparency! If this is an example of how our Asst. Chief is going to handle his affairs and those of the On, I would say Standing Bear has his work cut out to bring trust to the ON government.
DeleteSomething else is in the wind too. Osage News has a blurb on Facebook about Osage Nation Tax Commission Administrator, Mary Mashunkashey resigning her post. She's the wife of Joe Don Mashunkeshey of the Pawhuska Village scandal -- http://osagenews.org/article/fbi-investigating-former-pawhuska-five-man-board -- and Macy Mashunkashey's mother. I wonder if this is tied in somehow. Does anyone know what is going on?
DeleteA cloud of suspicion all around. Again
DeleteThat's a problem for the Nation the cloud over Red Corn. And Our Chief needs to come out and say he supports him, if not this is a huge cloud over the Nation. And I repeat this needs to be addressed. I hope the Chief wasn't hoping that this question was not on the Horizon. This is Political and let me be clear their are hitters out their amongst us Osage are willing to go to the length to get to the truth! And I say this lightly now. But not to address could have it's adverse affects if you know what I mean?
DeleteIt's not political. What he did has nothing to do with politics. He stole artwork from the OCH Museum while he was a Board member and in a position of extreme trust. This vile behavior reflects on the Osage Nation government and all Osages because he was a member of the Osage Congress at the time. We can't have people in high office in our government with a proven track record of sticky fingers! In any other government setting besides our own, pressure would come to bear and the head of government would seek a no-confidence vote from the legislature and he would be asked to resign or face the consequences. One way or the other, he would be out on his keister just like John Red Eagle. IMO he should be. Anybody on a Board of Directors of a museum who steals artwork from it, is a Bum. Am I right or am I right?
DeleteIt is Political because the Osage Constituency voted for him. It wasn't before but the game changed.
DeleteHe violated the trust through the power of authority is what you are saying?
DeleteYes, in so many words. If you are a Board Member of an Art Museum, you are placed in a high position of trust that he apparently violated when he stole the artwork. Maybe he thought it was a good cover for his nefarious activities. The non-Osage community, no doubt, thinks he's scum. They probably think that only the Osages would elect someone who does things like that to be the Asst. Chief. It reflects badly on all of us.
DeleteAnd you are correct. No one challenged thats the problem. Wd have a political environment with weak Newspaper.
DeleteDon't forget that Madam who runs the Osage News is BFF with Red Corn's wife who owns the BHT. That's how that works. As usual
DeleteGood chance whatever is missing could be along side a box of my family artifacts and old pictures in New York City , on the floor of the New Yorker's writer David Grann office. It is my understanding the floor of his office is full of material provided by Osages, years of research on the FBI and Osage Murders and ect. So, it could be there, I'm not right all the time ,just most. H
DeleteGrayhorse In-Lon-Schka this weekend!
ReplyDeleteI would like to thank the Osage Mineral Trust Beneficiaries for considering me and for voting for me in the June 2, 2014 Minerals Council election. Although I didn’t make the cut, you have wisely elected a Council that is heavily weighted toward oil field experience and business experience. That is exactly what I was hoping you would do. There will be differences of opinion among them, but that can be a good thing at times. What we need now is to get all the new ideas out there and start chewing on them a little. I expect to see great things coming from this Council over the next 4 years.
ReplyDeleteAs for me, I plan to keep right on doing what I’ve been doing as long as I see a need. I really want to be there to see the good things start happening. If you believe nothing else I have said over the last 3 years, believe this: Osages, you really do need to know. Please take an interest in your inheritance. Learn where it comes from and what it takes to make things work. Less than 25% of the eligible beneficiaries voted in this last election. That’s the sad part. We must teach our children how things work and find a way to get them interested in someday participating in the management of this precious asset they will own a part of.
Again, thank you very much for your support and your vote.
Thanks for running Ray, and for all the work you do to keep the Shareholders informed about what's happening out in the oil field. It doesn't go unnoticed or unappreciated. You had my vote Monday and if you run for Council in future, you will have it again.
DeleteWell spoken, Ray. You had our vote and will have it again if you run in the future.
DeleteJim and Lou Phillips
Trying to reply to Ray McClains post. For sure most thought you had a foot already in the door. Thank you for your dedication and we need more of you on the same page. Maybe next time.
DeleteI'd encourage everyone to visit Ray's website; http://www.osages-you-need-to-know.com/
DeleteFor up-to-date information & analysis.
Yeah most of us do. Sorry he did not make the cut for M.C.
DeleteThe Osage News is reporting that Osage Inauguration Day will be held on July 2, 2014. See http://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/osage-nation-congress-special-session-14-information
ReplyDeleteMore events are located at http://osagenews.org/events
See for Inauguration Day http://osagenews.org/event/osage-inauguration-day
DeleteLooks like they can handle it, keeping a eye on each other may cut down on the pillaging everyone was accusing the other of, that's the incomplete and under the bridge "French" havot-pillage. H
ReplyDeleteCongressional Election recount! See http://osagenews.org/article/recount-requested-osage-congressional-race
ReplyDeleteI've made it quite clear for MONTHS that you are not going to use the Osage Blog as a whipping post to drub Cynthia everytime you turn around. That's it and that's all. I notice with other web sites like Facebook that you don't do this because you aren't allowed to there either. You have other places to go and things to do. You want to start a blog or Facebook page to bash Cynthia, that's your business. Not here and that's final. You look like a sore loser who has done everything you can to obsessively target the only woman Council Person on the Second Mineral Council. It didn't work then and it won't work now because she has supporters who like her agenda and she was the second highest vote getter in the Minerals Council election on June 2, 2014. Enough is enough and as far as we are concerned, it's entirely too much.
ReplyDeleteThis is the last time I will post or look at your blog. Listen to today's Mineral Council. My work is done.
DeleteThanks to Jim Gray and his reservation lawsuit that failed, we are witness to the back and forth on the wind farm issue -- http://barnsdalltimes.com/http:/barnsdalltimes.com/news/two-fronts-wind-appeal-no-2-filed
ReplyDeleteSince we seem to be going back into Iraq, at least on a limited basis, this web page of Foreign Affairs Backgrounders may be of interest. See http://www.cfr.org/publication/by_type/backgrounder.html?cid=nlc-public-special_announcement-link2-20140616&sp_mid=46217052&sp_rid=dGluYS5yLmFsbGVuQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0S0
ReplyDeleteGuess! we can all agree about 25% of the Mineral Right Shareholders being Non-Osage , but has any research ever been done on how many of these court cases have been financed by the land grappling ranchers. I'd say 25%, do I hear 50%, after reading the Barnsdall Times article on the wind farms, and the quote gave a good price for the indian land. Who too the attorneys?? H
ReplyDeleteThis just being reported by the AP on Indianz.com. http://www.indianz.com/News/2014/014081.asp
ReplyDeleteThank you! If the BLM isn't going to be checking wells any more than the BIA, why do we need new CFRs that include BLM regulations? What good will it do other than layer on more regulations with no improvement in the end results. What kind of a scam is this now? Galen?
DeleteFor obvious reasons we do need the change to take effect. The BIA is and are aware of the delays in administration and out on the field. Once every producer is in alignment with said changes no longer can they dismiss or by pass or flare without being compensated for other resources, and with proper installation of new meters and so forth.....will give us accurate reading only then we will bw aware of how much money has gone unaccounted for....I posted that comment only to confirm why we got the settlement in the first place. Did you notice in the article our name was not mentioned? We have 4000 wells long overdue the upgrades, had to happen. Why would anyone gripe about getting a bigger royalty check?
DeleteCNN Breaking News Alert:
ReplyDeleteThe U.S. Patent Office has canceled six trademarks belonging to the Washington Redskins football team, saying they are offensive to Native Americans.
In a decision released today, the office's Trademark Trial and Appeal Board ruled that the "that these registrations must be canceled because they were disparaging to Native Americans."
The board also said it lacked the authority to prevent the team from continuing to use the trademarks.
The decision came in response to a suit brought by what the board called "five Native Americans."
Yeah, I read that, it would have been different if the patent benefited Indian Country. But, it didn't. I kinda saw this image as we were and always will be apart of a never ending fight to the end and not so much as disparaging but a face that kept us in Indian Counrty letting America not to forget who was here first. Times change and hope is indefinite.
DeleteMore "Gray Days" for other Tribal Communities>>> http://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/news/tribal/9939-delaware-chief-survives-day-in-court-now-faces-possible-recall-petition
ReplyDeleteGoodness, what could have caused the fall out?
DeleteAre you serious? Anything they touch is poisoned. After four years the guy was Chief of the Osage Nation with all he got up to and you don't know this?
DeleteMeant to be sarcasim. Really though, Indian Country appears to be getting wind of the Grays,... leaving a foul taste. Still would like to know why the Grays Contract was terminated? And curious as to what the current Chief of the Delaware thinks about the petition for recall that is circulating? Why would you cancel a contract that had a life spand of just four months left?
DeleteTo get rid of the bums AQAP. Why else?
DeleteTo Galen Crum,
ReplyDeleteWanted to think you again for the quick return call. The information provided proved to be true. As a matter of fact my father owned a few wells going back as far as 25 years ago. Yeah I know how did this get lost, especially probate was closed 17 yrs ago. And the Producer is working with us. Will be selling the divided interest. Thanks. One Shareholder that is happy with this M.E council member.
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ReplyDeleteOH...Happy Day...The MC addresses proper office behavior and what is and is not acceptable. Listen to the audio of today's MC meeting.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the link to listen to the audio online of today's MC meeting?
DeleteOMG! You can't find a single thing on that new Tribal web site and now they have maintenance web pages up all over the place. Who is responsible for this web site because it's just awful? Did Raymond Red Corn or any of his sons have anything to do with this one like they did with one fat buffalo?
DeleteRight I went to put in the old name and our site is just a mess. Cant stand the web page period. All over the place.
DeleteTotally agreed! Don't you get sick of seeing people get paid in the ONG for work product like this?
DeleteI'm sure we are not the only ones that feel this way.
DeleteHope that changes in time. Be glad to see new faces. And hope that all will remember what they are elected for. Karma can hurt. Can lots a changes be moving forward. After July 1st, lots of changes.
ReplyDeleteTo be more correct, the MC voted to put in place rules to protect MC office employees from being harassed in the office and to insure a non-hostile and safe work environment. They are after all MC employees and should be able to come to work and do their job without fear of being yelled at and harassed. If ANYONE has a complaint they should take it up with the office manager or the MC chairman. Glad to see this put in place, it's only right and should have been done a long time ago!
ReplyDeleteI do agree with you. Established policies are long overdue. I guess this is to keep a particular patern of someones long overdue personality is going to be in check. With the new M.C. coming in they will have a front seat to this behavior. Now documentation can be recorded in a employee file and looks to me 3 violations and your out....well at least in the real world of office politics...we shall see how long this will last. As I've said before the shareholder's are tired of some of the unfortunate unprofessional behavior of some....if u know what I mean.
DeleteWhat is going to be interesting to watch. is there were problems in the 1st MC with this person and one of our new elected MC members was on the 1st MC. So this behavior will come as no surprise. IMO the violation threshold has already been surpassed. No employee or anyone else for that matter should have to be subjected to such harassment and hostility without due course of the legal system. If this were to go on in a no-Indian work place, Federal laws would come into place and they may still?
DeleteRight.
DeleteMore bad news certain members of the MC will choose to ignore>>> http://journalrecord.com/2014/06/18/salty-language-osage-county-landowners-producers-argue-over-operators-manual-energy/
ReplyDeleteTo osageblooger...The poster on June 19 at 10:59 AM referenced a web site "journalrecord.com" etc, etc, etc. Why cant these references to web sites be put on the blog in such a way that we can simply click on them and bring them up rather than having to write the entire thing down and then type it in somewhere else? Other forums are able do it. That's a lot of rigamarole to go thru when it could be made much simpler. I would venture to say, the way it is discourages people from following through to see what the information is.
DeleteCut and paste. Simple.
DeleteYes. Cut and paste is what we do and it works very well for us too. When Google makes their Blogspot Blogs able to accept live links in comments, we will let you know.
DeleteUse Firefox. Highlight the URL, right click, and select Open Link in New Tab (or Window).
DeleteAdvantage M.E. The ruling will be in favor for Osage there can be no other decision. This is by no means a blanket statement. This born from the Settlement. We all believe in preserving the land....but this falls back on the producers right it's not like they are new to regulations just not following the rules because of the laxed environment at the Helm, The BIA. I'm sure what ever was lost in translation will be defined by the newly written CFR'S and there will be no more excuses, well I won't hold my breath on the last part...Everyone should now understand that compliance is long overdue.
ReplyDeleteFirst off>> I agree with poster "To osageblooger" today at 2:51 PM and secondly>>>what ruling is the 12:51 post talking about? Is it the site referred to by the 10:59 post? This is all so confusing not being able to directly click on a suggested site to read. Surely this would be a worth while improvement to the blog site.
DeleteI believe I was talking about the waiting period or comment period for the changes to the CFR'S. Proposals presented by the land owners and producers for consideration either in addition to or not does not matter.
DeleteGlad to see Ray McClain is back to posting.....in my opinion these rules for the Staff should have been established years ago. Boone can now rest in peace proper protocol is established and will have to adhere or face removal,now that documentation will be noted. But failure to comply I'm not hereing the consequnce of said behavior? Policy and procedure and consequnce should be better defined, just my opinion. But this is a start in the right direction. Hostility makes it hard to want to work in that type of office environment....that being said, I'm thankful that production is up and though I'm perplexed, if a landowner is holding up production can they be held liable for the delay and cover our costs of administration fees and etc...? It is so obvious, that M.E. has the right of way....they knew way ahead of time that we could drill on or near the property when they purchased their land and signed the dotted line...really...With a new gas tax on the horizon sure to raise the price of gasoline I do see the price per gallon dropping but only marginally. Gasoline was predicted last year to rise to $5.00 gallon. And we are almost there. The new norm I suspect or speculate. Go to Osages-you-need-to-know.com. Another great post by Ray Ray...thank you.
ReplyDeleteKING: Osage Minerals Councilwoman Cynthia Boone has hired an attorney to fight "harassment" from fellow council members. A recent resolution passed by the Second OMC reads that "Boone be banned from the office area except when absolutely necessary to attend duly called Council and Committee meetings and collecting official communications from Council mailbox; and that she cease all direct contact with office staff, instead directing all legitimate requests through the Council Chairman and or office manager." Boone was the only woman on the Second OMC and is the only council member to be elected for three consecutive terms. Osage News story to follow.
ReplyDeleteWill Kemble: Wow
Matthew Gray: Oh snap....it's getting real in the hill....
Osage News
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BREAKING: Osage Minerals Councilwoman Cynthia Boone has hired an attorney to fight "harassment" from fellow council members. A recent resolution passed by the Second OMC reads that "Boone be banned from the office area except when absolutely necessary to attend duly called Council and Committee meetings and collecting official communications from Council mailbox; and that she cease all direct contact with office staff, instead directing all legitimate requests through the Council
After all she has done to "harasses" the employees of the MC office it's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black to claim she is being harassed
DeleteI think the MC will have plenty of documentation to justify the resolutions.
DeleteYou go girl!!!!! Kick some macho bu**. It's about time.
DeleteNow she needs to be voted offf the council by petition of the shareholders. End.
DeleteFor what? Expecting incompetents, thieves, jailbirds and liars on the Shareholder payroll to get to work? Ha Ha Ha
DeleteMajority rules. Go MC. AND BY FAR THIS IS NOT HARRASSMENT. LOL.....
DeleteI didn't know rules and regulations were a form of harassment?
DeleteIt is the business of office management to choose to hire anyone they want...I for one believe in office training experience and cross training for a efficient office. A happy office gets the work done....life is stressful enough without adding more confusion. And we want a working environment that is peaceful as well for our M.C members....keep up the vreat work M.C.
DeleteSo 12 office staff left for more than one reason because of boones behavior. Wow.
Delete12? Stuff and nonsense! Name names.
DeleteHad Cynthia adhered to the warnings to curtail her erratic behavior, it wouldn't have come to this
DeleteI believe Andrew and Galen have done an excellent job of putting in place regulations to control harassment in the work place without bringing out in the open what most of us knew already concerning what has been going on. I'm sure most of us have been at a point sometimes in our life where it is better to take our medicine and keep our mouth shut rather than expose ourselves to more embarrassment. This may be that time for Ms. Boone. IF...IF..this were to go to trial there is plenty of documentation to justify why these regulations were put in place and the documentation can go back for years and may expose Ms. Boone to Federal charges of work place harassment and expose her unstable professional behavior for all to hear about. She might best might want to lay low, follow the regulations and get on with her life ?
DeleteName names. Who are we talking about here?
DeleteWell, they are talking about this non sense from the first M.C.to now the current M.C. so, 12 it is and obviously the M.C. and or? has been keeping records of this behavior against the staff. Evidence speaks louder than words. Mark my words the staff who have left because of the harassment, chronicled the dates I'm sure, personally, this happened to I, as well. Staff also witnessed. Long and endure but had to be logged. New Management came in. But with that being said, in the long run I came out not the victim. Man I had never seen such bad form in my entire career and boy did I learn what work ethics meant lesson learned from a very bad person on how not to be. In the office their is what is call standard protocol, if you are not compliant then you are in subordinate and qualifies you for termination. This protects you and your employees. Change had to come and as a Shareholder this cancer of behavior is not a conducive environment we want for our M.E or for that matter the M.C.
DeleteI am quite sure that If this goes to court as someone suggested, it might...Cynthia will be letting the Genni out of the box and she won't be able to put it back in. If I were her friend, I would advise her to leave things alone. Putting rules and regulations in place to insure a non-hostile work environment is by no means "Harassment"
DeleteTo...HA..HA...HA Don't forget that she recommended someone that ran out of the office when a random dug test was to be done.
DeleteThat is a personnel issue and not the concern of a M.C its called know your place. Ethics.....what people do on their own time is there own business as long as performance related problems at work such as habitual tardiness , and so forth...this is the only reason why their should be random testing...we cannot perpetuate a hostile work environment. We should not be here having this discussion if the standard was set in the first place....
DeleteI encourage everyone to read the latest post by Ray McClain on his site "Osages-You-Need-to-Know. Its a good summary of the MC meetings on June 13 and 18. In his post he tells what the recent resolutions are that passed addressing "Anti-Hostility Workplace Policy" These should have been in place long ago. Of course Whitehorn, Boone , Bear voted NO and Red Eagle abstained. At least three of these did not get re-elected and won't be back.
ReplyDeleteDidn't I post above the comment above?
DeleteI'm happy that Ray has posted his take on the meetings but I would like to hear them myself. I finally got to this web page after looking everywhere on the Nation's new web site -- http://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/minerals-council On the right side of the page, the live audio is highlighted but not the audio for on demand. When are they going to get the lead out and put up the audio recordings of past meetings for those of us who actually have to work during the week? This web site is no communication tool anymore for Osages like it should be. Who do you have to contact to make things happen around there?
DeleteYou need to look left on the page where it says Mineral Council Meeting Information and click on that link which will take you to this web page:
Deletehttp://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/minerals-council/meeting-information
All the Audio and Agendas are listed there for on demand downloads and listening. Good for the IT Department for providing all of these meetings online since August of 2013.
To PSB, no one doubted you ever.
ReplyDeleteSpeak for yourself.
DeleteRACKLIFF, DENA MARIE:
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ole PSB aint got the full story out there yet. Councilman Andrew Yates called the Tribal police on Cynthia because she had come into the office to conduct Minerals Business for the Shareholders and that dumb yokel called the Tribal Police. The policeman who arrived told Yates the Tribal Police can't be used for enforcement of office policy and procedures set by Mineral Council resolutions and to get a Federal Court order which they can't because they are such wimps and bullies. That PSB you people are believing is in league with these reckless macho MC men who are backing a jailbird who dont show up to court and tells lies to the court. Perjury is a serious charge. Get smart people and at least give the hounded Council member the benefit of the doubt.
If we are talking about the same incident, the police officers also said that Cynthia was the aggressor....all documented!
DeleteYou don't suppose the "hounded Council member" might be a touch mentally un-stable? The evidence and actions over the years, would seem to indicate such.
DeleteFalling back on the old, if you disagree with a woman call her unstable or even go so far as to mistake her courage for insanity? Do you really think ploys like that will work anymore? Give us a break!
DeleteIt listed Cynthia as the aggressor in the unfounded and frivolous charge brought by Yates for which, among other things, he along with the others involved are being sued. The police officer set Yates' cap back on straight and left. All documented! Cynthia and her attorney need to take a big bite out of the cash in the saddlebags of Sonny Abbott who is behind most of it anyway.
DeleteFrankly, I hope this does go to trial. I can think of nothing more embarrassing, for Cynthia, than for all this to come out in the open.
DeleteAdditionally, there is rumor that Mia, who works for the police dept is funneling police information to the Osage News. Call Shannon Shaw to check. If that's going on she should be fired!
If Cynthia was a man this wouldn't be happing, I'd already knocked the hell out of some of those men. But Cynthia needs to quiet down some too. I hope this can be settled. But those guys are too aggressive. I ve seen it in person. Cynthia has worked very hard for us.
DeleteI know some of these cops. Give them 10 bucks and they'd say anything.
DeleteI too wish Cynthia was a man and did knock to daylights out of "those men" as you put it and then she would go to jail for assault ! Also it matters not that she is a woman. The regulations were put in place to insure a "Non-Hostile Work Place"
DeleteOne oh s*** cleans the atta boy slate clean....all the good, means nothing and everything she has done will not ne remembered but her aggression will be. I've do agree wheather there is merit or not which I believe in the later wheather real or not she needs help and not legal and I agree with another poster that this should be exposed. I personally want her removed and I want the M.C. to set two term limits...as well. I believe in those boys on the hill you just cant make this stuff up...we as Shareholders in the first should know you have a voice and we should make changes when needed. And they need our support....we want Integrity. The solution is simple. If she does not comply with said rules hold her hostile to the M.E. which means she is hostile towards the Shareholders and remove her period...
DeleteIn addition, we should thank Osageblogger for allowing us a voice on this matter, it can no longer be ignored but you can choose better words and solutions as opposed to going on a diatribe. Remember there is always two sides I am on the side of resolve, once and for all the Shareholders will prevail.
DeleteYou people that are defending Cynthia are off the wall ! How can you possibly defend work place harassment. stalking. lying, the turmoil she causes and defiant attitude when she was asked to stop her disruption of the office. I don't get it! As other posters have said...this really needs to go to trial and get all of her actions out in the open. Sad to say but it sounds like you approve of her actions. If you were on the receiving end of her actions I'll bet the farm you would be singing a different tune.
DeleteDon't let them get your goat....most shareholders with common sense understand that you and meaning we don't know who is posting here. For all you know the people who might be posting might be the very same person who we are discussing right...cooler heads need to prevail and so should the Shareholders.
DeleteFrom what I understand there is a written complaint in the works to the police dept.concerning Mia sending unsolicited police information to the Osage News as well as posting the information on this blog. Granted the information may be public record but it's not her job to go spreading it around. The rumor is that she did so at a MC members request. Guess who?I don't know Dena that well but understand she is a single mother supporting two kids. As long as she is doing her job, and she seems to be, her personal problems should be her business. For Mia to drag Dena through the dirt is hateful and mean ! I thought better of her but I guess I was mistaken.
DeleteP.S. The written complaint referred to is not coming from Dena.
DeleteThe word is out there about this incident spreading around and what those bully boys are up to. I posted the information right here and it has nothing to do with Mia. How many charity jobs with the Nation are being given out in that office? They have to be able to do the work and get it done right. One of them in there filing her nails got so far behind on her behind they had to hire two or three more eyeCandies in there to try and catch up and she was sending out paperwork on trusts that was wrong and not getting the job done right for real shareholders. It's a real mess in there and swishing skirts and eyeCandy just dont get it. You are defending people who don't need to even be in there in that office and one of them is back who also got picked up for drugs a year or more ago. If Cynthia rides hard on those smiling like for the camera simps then more power to her. Someone has to get the work done for the shareholders on their trusts and these girlies don't have a clue. Telling shareholders how to do it from the point of view of those who live home and not how the shareholders want their trust prepared!!!!!! Its disgusting in there and not even legal to make those kinds of suggestions to shareholders. All those trust responsibilities should be taken away from that office and prepared out of the BIA Solicitors Office in Tulsa as far away from Pawhuska as you can get to protect the estate interests of those shareholders who want a trust prepared. 60 trusts backlogged and 40 of them stuffed in a drawer! You think you and those bullies can justify this hideous lack of professionalism in that office that those men are tolerating by having those silly skirts in there? The BIA needs to launch an investigation because the Trustee of every one of those trusts is the Secretary of the Interior. Don't think those Councilmen would hop up and down to and fro then. We need this investigation to happen now. Where is the Osage Congress with a Special designated Committee to investigate what is going on in that office right now before the BIA sweeps in to get a good look at the situation and we get in even more trouble than we're in with them already. Mess Mess Mess Mess Mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pull your heads out and find out what is really going on in this office. Most of them should all be fired and charity tranfered to offices where the work doesn't matter so much legally. It's your estate matters shareholders and you need to know the real true story.
DeleteNo one ever said their was not in efficiencies in the office....I blame once again who ever is in charge, the office manager...not the employee....
DeleteWho holds the Mineral Council responsible if they aren't doing estate and Trust business for the Shareholders correctly and in a timely manner? The new Chief? Who do you file a complaint with? Mine must be one of the 60 Trusts mentioned. I hear making changes to an originally filed trust is nearly impossible. I also hear people are dying before these trusts are being completed and they aren't legal if they haven't been finished and finalized. This is terrible. How do you go over the heads of the Mineral Council office? The BIA Solicitor's Office? The old BIA Superintendent would rarely ever return a phone call unless Cynthia called her to get busy and call back. This is so weird. You call the IIM office in Albuquerque and they always seem to have it in order. Is anyone else having the same problems with their trusts in the MC office? We must have a shakeup in there to get things back on track with the Osage Nation Minerals Office if they ever were to begin with. If the Minerals Councilmen are running it then they have to be held responsible for what those women are doing or not doing properly. Like one member of the Osage Congress says, a pile of poo poo behind every single door at the Osage Nation you try to open. I can sure smell it all the way out to California.
DeleteNever hold the worker responsible for the work they do? How perfectly Osage of you........
Deletein efficiencies? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There isn't an efficiency anywhere in sight.
DeleteNever said that either it starts with management. All of you have the duty to call the chairman of the M.C and find out for yourselves how long it should take a trust to be processed and etc....and logged any complaint.
DeleteTook about an hour in person but didn't need to take that long if the Trust prepper had paid any attention to what they were told I wanted to do. I was told that the trust process after my demise takes three months start to finish, avoid probate, the whole thing. Not so. Takes a year with those people at the Osage Agency dragging it out before it goes to Albuquerque where it takes about a month once they get the paperwork. Not like Osages are dropping dead in droves. No excuse for any of it.
DeleteYeah I know what you mean and really once a trust is processed for approval can take up to 3 mo's from start to finish....and really if all your documentation is in order it shouldn't even take that long...it took 2 years for the trust to be disbursed from the Estate and of course this was 17 years ago and kid you not the will was well documented, till we threatened to sue....there was absolutely no reason for the wait period. The ball can no longer be dropped. You do this by making sure your staff is well versed. With management in tow...that means running weekly and monthly reports to be sure that your staff is doing what they should be...doing...
DeleteThe Chairman? Yates? He's in league with the Feds to end run those proposed CFRs through as soon as he can. Do you think he cares about your trust or anybody elses? Oh Yeah!!!!! Don't wait for that to happen. I'd be surprised if they even have a single progress report form in that office. You're talking about an Osage run government with offices that rarely if ever pick up the phone and rarely if ever return a phone call. I think I heard sometime back that a story was making it through the grapevine that an actual member of Congress had to send one of those Osage Nation offices an actual fax to get someone to call him back. What Standing Bear needs to realize is that most Osages are either too disgusted to call and receive bad treatment, not get what they need or want done without going to a lot of trouble to get it, or are just simply afraid to try and deal with Osage workers who act like they are too good to have to do anything for anybody. This is rampant in this monster that they created when they went with the Constitution and broke away from any of the Federal Regulations that applied in running Tribal government that may have applied before the change took place. Standing Bear and the rest of that Congress have been paying these people top dollar with raises and bonuses year after year before and after Merit went into effect, and I mean 18-20% above the highest Native American employer in Okla. and 36% above what workers in Oklahoma are paid. The same member of Congress who couldn't get a phone call answered was going around liberally quoting Thoreau with some quip like a government is only effective if the people don't want anything from it as if it should do only for those who work for it or add some benefit to it somehow rather than the government working for the Osage people whose needs it was created to serve in the first place. This is what you are up against up on the Hill and I don't really think Geoffrey has the cojones to clean it up. He has always left me with the impression that down deep he's afraid of these people who work for the Nation and those Osages related to them in the larger community in the Villages. The next thing we'll hear is that everything is so wrong that there's no hope of getting it back on track or the job is too overwhelming and too many Osages will be harmed if they try to get things working properly and more unconscionable totally crap excuses just like it. Mess mess mess mess mess!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteI don't think he has the guts to do what's needed either which is to shut the whole thing down and do an across-the-board in-depth assessment of each Executive Branch office and what needs to be done to correct the problems found. They throw money at those Executive Branch budgets too that are so high if we knew the real numbers spent, we would all be calling the Congress to do an investigation of themselves and their spending practices. Guess how well that would go. Who investigates them? The Attorney General's Office? If he can't find misappropriation misconduct of some kind, he wouldn't be looking closely enough.
DeleteTo the poster on June 22 at 12:39 PM While you were raving and ranting about "bullie boys" and "eyeCandy" you selectively failed to mention, that the person Cynthia highly recommended to work in the office ran out the door when she found out there was a random drug test coming. After she failed to come back and was fired there were 40 or more trust documents found stuffed in the back of one of the drawers of her desk
DeleteI agree with Poster June 23, 2:28 PM. The whole thing needs to be shut down and do a dept. by dept. assessment and clean house. Wouldn't you?
DeletePeople can recommend all day long yea or nay. It's the one who did the hiring that's on the hook here. Who told you Cynthia made a recommendation anyway? That's privileged information on account of employee privacy. You couldn't possibly know a thing like that unless you were the one who did the hiring? I don't believe it anyway.
DeleteIt's common knowledge on the hill and in the office who recommended that woman and was far from privilege information. But what's the point if you are not going to look into it and wouldn't believe the facts anyway. This is old news!
DeleteThere is nothing old about the Osage...just a different day..the point is and I have been saying it for awhile...there is a problem with incompetence at the maanagement level...the criteria may be set..but the standard for evaluation has fallen through the cracks..in other words we need to hire better management...just because your Osage, or have more Headrights...or your family history and ties with the Osage Triibe, does not give you your experience and truly this is a problem. Cynthia...as a overzealous M.C, who's inappropriate behavior set the new Standard long overdue....of which their really wasn't one in place till now...she took upon herself initiatives with out clearance...Our M.C are to ensure our assets and liabilities are secure and coupled with providing a healthy image. We are the ones the Shareholder's in the first must must not let the ball drop sorta speak ...we are the ones to govern our M.Cbetter word..help direct with everyone's suppot in tow...
DeleteThe name is spelled Miya, not Mia.
DeleteYou're invited to the MC Inauguration ceremonies on July 1, 2014: See https://www.facebook.com/OsageNews/photos/a.153834188010750.33094.134873493240153/716452581748905/?type=1
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DeleteSet the date...Osage Shareholders Association will be held Aug 17 ay Dave Landrum.....We need to get acquainted with the new MC...Let's have a good showing!!!!! Remember Aug 17 1:00 Dave Landrum.......Mary Lee
ReplyDeleteSo What ! I donated as well.
ReplyDeleteDid you get a job too?
ReplyDeleteConflict of interest...the appearance mof impropriety exists....and now it looks like they paid ther way in...this needs to be dealt with A.S.A.P
ReplyDeleteJust like Johnnie!!!! You get the ethics you vote for.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me, these are highly qualified people. It was their right to donate to the person they supported and doesn't make them less qualified. Why don't we wait and see how they do their jobs before starting a lynch mob.
ReplyDeleteYou go ahead. I've got my pitchfork in hand and at the ready.
ReplyDeleteWhat, he should keep it in the family like the Redcorn/Gray dynasty?
ReplyDeleteThe Inauguration for the MC 3 will be on Tuesday July 1st. It will be proceeded by a Catholic Mass. Quite a serious and formal event. Several of us will be there that were not at the last Inauguration and will be very interested to hear the language of the swearing in ceremony. We will be curious if it includes language something along the line of upholding the rules, regulations and resolutions as set forth by the MC. Don't see how one MC member can raise their hand and take such a oath when they are already ignoring and not following some of the resolutions already in place !
ReplyDeleteThank you for keeping us in the know, much appreciated, though I am curious of which resolutions you are talking about? Can you please let us know so it is documented. And this should be a big event...after all, in my opinion, The 1906 act is alive and well and the oath they will take understand they will be held accountable. So this is serious and giving thanks is a humble event. Wish I could be there anyother time I would be, big event's happening fhis year that cover huge costs like weddings.
DeleteLet's start off with the recently resolutions that were passed to insure a non-hostile work place.
DeleteOh please!!!!!!!!! The Principal here is the second highest majority elected Member of the Mineral Council, not those incompetent eyeCandies that gang up and manipulate those MC men in the office to feel sorry for them and let them get away with wholesale murder. Shutting the office down early because it's been a hard week for the office girls!!!!!!!! Give us a break. You are supporting this complete lack of professionalism in that office by those office girls and this is to the detriment of all of the shareholders. Get rid of them. Get women in there who don't do drugs and don't tell lies. Things will begin to run smoothly as soon as you do.
DeleteThats what I thought you couldn't come up with one piece of legislation that has been violated...
DeleteIn reply to the post 6-29 5:35. Have you been living under a rock and refuse to acknowledge the turmoil that one MC member has brought to the MC office with total disregard for the resolutions voted on and passed by the MC ? You are in total denial.
DeleteThat person is and probably from the same family that supports that persons abuse of power without clearance....we understand what has transpired and it only takes one to spoil the rest of the apples, sorta speak....these resolutions are made to support and facilitate a good work environment to protect everyone involved. End...it is obvious that this person does not understand good work ethics.
DeleteOh Please !!! Just because a person gets a lot of votes in an election, does not give them license to run amok and violate MC resolutions. We will all be watching to see how they act after the MC3 opens up. Maybe they will rip their britches, violate enough rules and resolutions and get removed from office like JRE did.
DeleteP.S. The person in question has left a long trail of lies and half truths. So, if we are going to get rid of people that lie...there would be a good place to start.
DeleteThats ok we are armed as well...the Constituency has more power.....we will be watching....
ReplyDeleteI understand this is only a rumor so far...but can anyone tell us what qualifications Libby Gray has to reform policies and procedures of the HR dept ? I was hopping that we had seen the last of the Gray's in any way shape or form.
ReplyDeleteSuch bogus trumped up violations are unenforceable. Those girls don't run that office. The members of the Minerals Council do and if those pansy men in charge had gotten after those lazy gals in there, it would never have come to any of this in the first place. Cause and effect or don't you know what that means? They have to work for a living and for what they're paid to do. Is all this over your head?
ReplyDeleteIs it all over your head...we're not going to go through this again....we know the solutions do you?
DeleteCynthia doesn't run the office either ! And nothing justifies her actions...Period.
DeleteThe inauguration went well except Stephanie was up front talking while other MC members were being sworn in. Totally inappropriate and disrespectful .... but what would one expect?
ReplyDeleteMy My, here you all go again. I guess now we will start on another MC member, don't you all ever stop complaining about stuff? Aren't you ever happy about anything in your lives. It's a new MC, and let's see how things are going to go before we start picking on others.
ReplyDeleteGood point.
DeleteJust pointing out dis-respectable behavior. When another MC member is getting sworn in by the judge, they should be shown the courtesy and respect of not talking to others in the back ground. It's called common sense and being polite. Even people in the audience were respectable of the occasion. It's basically called good manners. :)
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I understand that minutes are not being taken by hand for the Minerals Council meetings....what if someone pushes a wrong buttin or if someone wants to delete a part of the tape...The proper way to handle the minutes is to take them by a responsible person and preserve them..We are dealing with a Multi Million Dollar business and we must deal with it in a Multi Million Dollar way...Let the MC members know that we expect them to deal with OUR MultiMillion Dollar business in a Multi Million Dollar way!!!!
ReplyDeleteAh Mary, you have a point by golly....Chairman Yates could you respond....A Stenographer is only 36,000. A year.
DeleteAnd maybe this should be covered by the BIA.....after all this could be considered under Administrative?
DeleteNow that one wind farm is out of the picture should we see a change in our Royalty?
ReplyDeleteThis thread is now closed. Go to: http://osageblog.blogspot.com/2014/07/osage-shareholder-matters-july-2014.html
ReplyDeleteEveryone...write to the MC members..Written Minutes are necessary for any MultiMillion Dollar Business and we must remember that this is a Business! And a Mujlti Million Dollar one !!!! If someone pushed the wrong button everything is lost...or if someone wants to delete a part...then no one has anything to go one...Who amongst us remembers all the details..
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