https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/multimedia/live-media Tourism with Eddy Red Eagle speaking. It would be nice to know how much money is being appropriated by the Osage Nation Congress by making this individual budget amount available. $98,000 in total nested in this budget bill ONCA 15-86? Thank you Eddy for asking so we have some clue as to how much we are talking about. Agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/ruElyjcqYl4mBUNbsxG6mtbtS7cTJAS00MDa01rrAGlkIJsLIktw2shNPqGKHkMI?dl=1
Donations are in total are $199,500? That's a huge chunk of change going out where and to whom? Shannon Edwards is asking for this total number of donations on a budget justification. Good idea. If tourism is $98,000 and $85,000 for the American Legion Post. There has got to be more than this if these two individual budgets calls for almost all of it. Political contributions mentioned as an example.
It sounds like there are more budgets within the budget bills within those budgets within the final budgets? WTH? We are on a need to know basis and we need to see in writing where this money is going and flowing!
Shannon Edwards said 18,000 to 19,000 members. She should take the time to read the Osage News. It's 19,000 plus another 1,000 or more in 2014. We're 20,000 in membership in county and across the country. The thing to keep in mind is that as of 2010 the City of Aurora, Colorado had a poplulation of 325,078 and is the 56th most populated city in the USA. This city does not float IN TOTAL PER CAPITA the offices, departments, divisions, agencies, boards, commissions, services, programs, study groups, communities, centers, posts, works, branches, task forces, academies and so on and so forth per year as does the Osage Nation government. Now something is horribly wrong here when these numbers are this entirely totally out of whack.
Where service goes, $25 million in Tribal spending for the Osage Nation government and $15 million for the membership. Sure looks like they serve themselves first. That's not like any kind of proper funding for government service I've ever heard of other than Communism. Not good and not right.
Kugee was very smartly dressed today in Session. Good to see him doing the Nation's business while looking like a professional instead of a field hand. No offense to field hands intended. The professional people he interacts with would take him more seriously if he dressed and looked the part of a member of the Osage Nation Congress all the time instead of part time. Golfing clothes and sweats and jeans and what all else are unacceptable to the Osage people who deserve respect from the members of our Osage Congress. They are definitely paid well enough to dress well while conducting the business of the Osage people.
GovOps Committee is meeting and have tabled two items on today's agenda about the election bill and approval of the election rules and regulations at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/oN1tTmRkrkomA33SFSamBxOIWRoBKVUmJECv9KJTtaIJrSNt3370DS1F4Tzkbute?dl=1
$209,000 for IT? Woah! Circuit 180 bites per month? Other budgets have long distance service that come into IT. Sharepoint package discussion. Internet and intranet possibilities plus professional fees in sharepoint and CRN. Need to subcontract help. Working to stop access to facebook of employees during work time for social media and is open partially. Bandwith is the problem so only business essential services are taking place. Occupancy including rent and space cost $9,200 different and weren't charged before $17,400 insurance for equipment. Travel $$$ small. 18 employees. Two separate budgets for IT and a third listed on the agenda? WTH are they charging rent for after the Osage people have paid millions upon millions for the new campus buildings? I thought they we're being built so we could save rent on the various divisions, departments ettc., of the Osage Nation. Are you kidding? We own these buildings don't we? This is crazy!
Recycle equipment yearly for machines that aren't quite up to snuff. Planned obsolescence is the order of the day with Internet Technology. Operating systems are pushed forward and have to get the latest product to keep up with what is going on and is expensive using the latest technology. Kugee shows his hard copy file and gets a laugh all around.
Calee Catcher, Osage Nation Treasurer is giving her report. Slim and trim budget with part of her salary in this budget and the other part in another budget? Really? How does that work exactly?
Wow..I guess this is a hint. You just have to take a look and notice almost everyone in our Gov is overweight. .simple fix, change something in your diet like red meat or soda and watch what happens. Women need red meat for the Iron intake most of my servings is no bigger than my fist in anything I eat..Behavior will change after 3 weeks. Takes 3 weeks or 21 days to formulate good eating habits. 20 mins cardio ,the rest with weights. Dumb bells, kettle balls..core exercise ball. For women 5 pd dumbbells to start with..40 mins a day for three weeks. I worked out everyother day it worked for me..Diet I use the Atkins and protein shakes..so simple and you will not feel hungry..funny thing will happen, your taste buds start to want to eat healthy. In other words after three weeks, even your bowel movements will change. Cut back on butter and dressing and cooking if you can with less veg oil and cook fresh with olive oil..I eat fruit. Atkins says not to in the beginning of the diet..lost 14 pounds in two weeks...veggies meat protein shakes and fruit and nuts..get that metabolism moving..you must eat..this is what my diet consists of. Eggs bacon fruit...mid day a shake, lunch a salad with chicken..yes I had a little cheese and cucumber and tomato on my salad..mid say snack nuts and dinner meat and veggies..I am a fifty two year old Osage women in the best health ever..though I have Highblood pressure, genetic and have to take a pill...thats all I take..oh and you can have a beer or two with this diet...still lost the weight. 100% whey protein..I order mine on line thru GNC. Chocolate and strawberry is the best..vanilla is fun cuz I mix juice and fruit sometimes for just a change up..one more thing, if anything you take from this is probiotics..take them they work..that flat stomach is achieved by weight training not running...drink lots of water. .most people walk around in a dehydrated state..I also drink amino acids. Grape, and strawberry lemonade flavors are my tastes. I drink two a day..with just one scoop...two scoops is overwhelming for me..though I can't stop the gray hair lol or my blood pressure, I can be proactive..and so can you..hope this helps..
Thank you! These are terrific suggestions. One of my favorites is a whole block of frozen spinach or other green frozen vegetable in the microwave with two pats of butter and eat the whole thing before you eat anything else for dinner. A small potato or regular serving of rice and baked chicken breast in tin foil with spices to taste. No snacking between meals and get to bed by 9:00 p.m. I also am a fan of popcorn at lunch with no butter or anything else on it at noon and again at 3:00 p.m. I drank a breakfast drink, protein drink will substitute as well and they have some really tasty ones out there including the GNC brand you recommend. Coupled with exercise daily, I lost 10 lbs in one month on this diet and probiotics are good too in live culture yogurt or bottled probiotics powder that you keep in the fridge and add to water or juice. This diet can be used every other day but you have to be careful not to load up on calories on the odd days or you may wind up gaining weight or not lose any weight at all.
Session went well with one of the bills sent back to committee that was to be voted on today. Again, tunnel vision on spending with Buffalohead, this time, carrying on about Hominy not getting the money spent on it as Pawhuska and Greyhorse. This general area has had more spending, $21,000,000, more than any other for less Osage members than Pawhuska. This is turning into a child's game of competition between the three geogaphical areas surrounding the villages with only one or two members of Congress advocating for the rest of the membership outside of these areas and their needs and wants, yet these members of Congress with tunnel villages vision won't hesitate to ask for our votes come election time. Such requests are unjustified and really audaciously unfair until they begin to exhibit a universal legislative spending policy of funding benefitting all members of the Osage Nation.
Commerce and Econ committee is live now and the agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/JxzcAUhCvyu0XWPQTltxqNBjk2WOD9TnZQbkdOx8jBj3Gdel48xr5gwz14xda6jB?dl=1
Brillant idea from Speaker Whitehorn to create a board candidate pool of qualified Osages to serve to submit to the Chief when new board members are to be nominated due to a vacancy. Very good idea to be advertized and under the umbrellla of the Congress to raise awareness of the Gaming Enterprise Board with the public. How many times can Mark Simms be shuffled around? Right? Advertise these board appointments from the Congress side as the Executive is alleged to be too narrow, non-inclusive and political about these appointments.
If the Congress wants to do more than ask one question, if that, of all the board members where vetting is concerned on the floor of the Osage Congress that would be better.
you mean they actually vet these candidates and do their job to advise and consent? It doesn't work because you Congress don't do the work to vet and make that vote secret if need be to stop these board members who are unqualified from being consented to when they shouldn't be.
If you're afraid to say no to the appointment of a board member then you should resign. When are these people going to fully flesh out the role they've been elected to fulfill? Afraid? What is that? Cowardice? Ridiculous. When are we going to have grown ups in these elected offices for once?
Financing plan with business loan agreement is so complicated Congress needs to hire an attorney to review Appendix B of the plan of operation of the gaming operation. Trey Gill says that it's too complicated for him to review and advise the Congress on? Now comes RJ to say we need to go ahead and approve the plan with a waiver of sovereign immunity? Don't move the ball forward until you understand what you are agreeing to ahead of time. A step in deciding if they should approve it. Loan costs money to put together but we shouldn't go there if the terms and conditions of the loan are not understood by the Congress before they approve this Appendix B.
Understanding the Contract is 99% crucial to the Operation. Understanding the provisions is key. Do not go forwarded until the Diligence is done by each and everyone in Congress. Just because RJ says so is now not a go.
When 100s of thousands of dollars in the loan amount they need to have Congressional side legal advice not from the Executive side or the Boards attorney on this matter. Don't side step the responsibility for balance of power protections for the Osage people's money on a loan that is huge and is about $400,000 in size. Don't you think about going there until you are completely satisfied from a legal standpoint that this loan and its terms and conditions are absolutely in the best interest of the Osage people and the Osage Nation government. Hiring your own attorney is the only thing you can do and is the responsible thing to do before you vote to approve Appendix B of the gaming plan of operation for this year. This is a no brainer.
Osage numbers of students 0-18 years by community request by Shannon Edwards that has not been received so she can review this information. Agenda says consideration of Legislation. What legislation? There is nothing listed, Archie Mason. Aren't you the Chair of this committee? This agenda is light, wouldn't you say? How is the committee supposed to work with an agenda like this?
Why is that doof AP Chief so damn defensive and why does he always take a petulant tone every time he has something to say. He's there at the tolerance and generosity of the Committee, not in any formal official capacity. The same tone he took when he end ran those stupid iPads he had to have. Be nice or shut up and go away. If you don't ever get sick of yourself and your ugly bullying attitude, don't think for a New York minute that we don't. Buh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats why we call him iPad Ray-Ray. Hahahahahaha! This little piggy can go wee wee wee all the way home and stay there. Don't think most of the members of the Congress wants him in those committee meetings because I hear they don't. With him it's always been a turf war with him siding with the Executive Branch for the most part even when he was on Congress. At least now he's getting paid by the Branch of government whose side he's been on from the beginning.
My thoughts and prayers goes out to the family and friends of Mr. Charles Hurlburt who past away last night. We appreciate his years of service to the BIA and the Osage Producers.
GovOps Committee meeting is going on now. The Agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/nYhTMC3KkgtQMciQ29GlenYDas6XcK4xiieyva9QdLaUc0qyHpjIKSnP20tHtScu?dl=1
How many times do we have to hear from the members of Congress that the salaries, wages and benefits in Federal programs have never been done in the budgets this way? Is the Executive Branch Treasurer playing fast and loose with these budgets amounts as to Federal requirements or what?
Meeting is now live. Working on a section of the Congressional Rules. Discussion about the Appropriations Oversight Committtee and making changes that are uniform thoughout the document.
Session is due to start at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/multimedia/live-media The Agenda is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/sites/default/files/event-brochures/DAY14A_9-23-15_TZS.pdf
Talking about Boards and compensation to change incentive structure for those board members who make money and those who don't. Congresswoman Buffalohead says the Boards and Commissions are a mess as well as the submitted budgets and this bill needs to go back to Congressional Committee for discussion. Vote was successful to do so.
Pursuing due diligence and Shannon is getting an e-mail, "Come on!" She is being pushed to go forward? Kugee wants a Congressional based review not someone else's sales review who want this to go forward. Maker is saying they have been reviewing the situation for a long time and when are they going to make up their mind. But his comments do not include a review of the specific loan terms and conditions on a FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR LOAN AMOUNT so Congress can do its separate and required due diligence.
Shannon says raises and compensation for the Osage Nation employees compared to Tulsa government and Oklahoma City government employees in metropolitan areas is over double what city workers are making in the State. What the hell? You bet something is wrong! A full third are asking for raises? AP Chief jumps in with his spin. I knew these inflated numbers as market were false and they were lying from the get go. AP Chief you aren't getting people to move there at any price as to salary so stop running that tired excuse around the block again. You are paying the same who people have lived here and who are local and have been local since you set up this scam to hand out the funds in the Treasury like your own personal loot to raid at will. Scott Johnson is an honest man as head of HR?
WHAT KIND OFF CRAP A**ED DEAL IS THIS? WE KNEW THEY WERE LYING ABOUT SALARIES IN THE LOCAL AREA AND NOW WE FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE RAIDING THE TREASURY FOR MORE RAISES AND BONUSES? FIRE THE HEAD OF HR WHO IS RUNNING A SCAM LIKE THIS AND EVERYONE OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO DEMAND A RAISE UNDER SUCH A SCAM AGAINST THE OSAGE PEOPLE AND THE PILLAGE OF THEIR MONEY. FIRE ANYONE WHO PUTS FORWARD ANY SUCH JUSTIFICATION WITH LIES LIKE THIS AND GET RID OF THEM STARTING WITH THE AP CHIEF AND THE CHIEF IF HE'S INVOLVED. THIS IS A BOMBSHELL REVEALED HERE TODAY AND CONFIRMED BY SHANNON EDWARDS WITH NO BETTER OR GREATER SERVICES FOR THE OSAGE PEOPLE THIS SCAM OF GOVERNMENT WAS PUT FORWARD TO BE SERVING US AND NOT THROWING CASH AROUND AT ONE ANOTHER ON 535 EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE NOT RELOCATED FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE BUT HAVE LIVED RIGHT IN THE LOCAL AREA ALL ALONG. PROVE THAT STATEMENT AND LIST WHO HAS MOVED TO THE LOCAL AREA TO JUSTIFY MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT THESE EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE PAID. GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So we are funding the dance school, the ballet students with scholarships and the WZI Ballet to give them hope to see the Pope in Philadelphia? This is a private business we are supporting and a religious oriented event that the Foundation is supporting with the Osage peoples money? Is this appropriate use of government funds? You can't just go out and ask for money? This Foundation has been open for contributions for years and years. The board member Pillsbury has made this idiotic statement? So in her elevated opinion, when will they they be in a position to go out and ask for donations? Get rid of this idiot ASAP and everyone who follows this advice. Putting together a plan? For what? To start raising money for the Osage Foundation beginning in 2050? Hahahahahaha! It's just one scam with this Osage Nation after another. I think this damn Foundation began with legislation put in place by the FIRST OSAGE NATION CONGRESS. GET RID OF THIS STUPIDITY !!!!!! A MILLION DOLLARS OF TRIBAL FUNDING? WTH DOES THAT MEAN? $155,000 but no Gala and no golf tournament? What are they doing? Need sponsorship from gaming and lost that so that's right back in our pocket one way or the other. Those cancelled events were fundraisers. THIS IS ANOTHER MONEY DRAIN. SHUT THIS DAMN THING DOWN NOW !!!!!! THEN LET US ASK FOR MONEY FROM THE OSAGE NATION GOVERNMENT AND IT WILL COST US LESS AS WE STILL HAVE THAT ANYWAY. THIS IS A FOS DEAL AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!! FLUSH THIS DOWN THE TOILET. MY GOD IN HEAVEN AND HAVEN'T RAISED ANY MONEY ALL YEAR? Hahahahahahahha! GTHO! FORGET THIS THING AND GET RID OF IT.
SHANNON EDWARD'S BABY AND SHIRLEY PILLSBURY WITH THE CHIEF'S VISION? Hahahahahaha. Is to be self-sustaining. WHEN? THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. Give the funding for the Foundation directly to the Osage Nation members outside of Osage County WHO REALLY NEED THIS MONEY !!!!!!!!! SCAM AFTER SCAM AFTER SCAM AFTER SCAM AFTER SCAM. BILL WEBB GETS $57,600 IN COMPENSATION FOR A PROFESSIONAL FEE CONTRACT? FOR WHAT? WITH NO MONEY BEING RAISED OR MADE BY THE FOUNDATION? NOW RUNNING THE RANCH WITH 9,000 ACRES OF LAND? BUT USED TO RUN THE GOLF TOURNAMENT AND THE GALA? WHAT EXPERIENCE WOULD THIS GUY HAVE TO NOW RUN A RANCH? THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT AND HARD WORK FROM PARTIES AND GOLF TOURNAMENTS. THIS IS TURNING INTO ANOTHER NIGHTMARE WITH AN UNQUALIFIED PERSON RUNNING THE FREEMAN RANCH? HOW BAD IS THIS GOING TO GET? SHANNON EDWARDS WILL YOU SNAP OUT OF YOUR JUNIOR LEAGUE MENTALITY AND TRY AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE WITH THE OSAGE PEOPLE'S MONEY THAT BENEFITS MAINLY YOU PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE OSAGE? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Osage Nation Foundation has been since 2005, but it doesn't legally exist. The laws of the Osage Nation do not provide for the formation or governance of corporations. This "non-profit corporation" was formed before the Osage Nation came into existence when its constitution was ratified in March 2006. Why would the Osage Nation fund a non-governmental entity, and especially one which isn't organized in compliance with Osage Nation law?
Utility Authority $139,950? Yet another unnecessary and unneeded division or department to justify the continued raid on the Osage Nation Treasury like it's nothing other than a Pirate's Chest filled with loot?
The Congress did create legislation for the Foundation years ago and I will get back with you on this.
Right now Eddy Red Eagle comes now for money for the ONES -- Osage Nation Energy Services LLC. Projects they are looking into? How long has this entity been around making no money and with their hand out year after year? Have only $25K in the bank when they were originally given seed money for what $100K? Just an outrage here again. This one is Standing Bear's baby when he was still in the Congress. Been awarded a grant from the state of OK? For what and why? Now strapped for cash when they went right out and the Board authorized the purchase of a building instead of using the money to do the work for which they were created. Add $10,000 to the budget for professional fees by Ron Shaw? BUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shaw is another one whose campaign promises are empty as hell. He ran on a platform where he will develop a method for the Osage people to weigh in yea or nay on all big ticket capital expenditures of the Osage Nation to find out whether or not we approve of them. Where is his legislation for that? Did we get a say on compacting the healthcare by these total incompetents? The campus plan and now this $400,000 hotel expansion of the Tulsa casino that has got to be the most derelict idea since they tried to float that idiotic statue for $10 million of our money. He's as full of crap as the rest of them. If one member of one of those prominent Osage families asks him for money, he can't give it out fast enough as today's example so perfectly illustrates. Sick and sickening the back stabbing liars, chancers and thieves we have running this government, past and present, isn't it?
To the poster at 11:34 AM. I'll concede that the Osage Nation Foundation was created by legislative act, but the act has no basis in law. Before a corporation can be formed, a code under which corporations are governed must first be enacted. To this day, Title 4 of the Osage Nation Code only provides for Limited Liability Companies. Title 4 Chapter 1 for Corporations is "[Reserved]" and until this section exists no corporations can be formed or operated under the laws of the Osage Nation. Given that the Osage Nation Foundation is not organized under a different jurisdiction either, it does not legally exist.
I have a lot of questions and something is a foul. Should we codify the ONC, would down size big government. So where and hiw was the funds used? This is unlawful taking? Andillegal taking, and the AG has the decretion to open a investigation and the Fedral Government should investigate as well?
The bigger issue remains to be asked and answered. What good are laws codified in the Osage Nation Code if they are not adhered to by anyone, including the elected officials? The laws have been disregarded when it comes to the Osage Nation Foundation, and the Osage LLC board has consistently failed to abide by the them even when chastised to do so (i.e., relocate its offices onto land under ON jurisdiction). OLLC also failed to abide by the terms of its operating agreement. What gives anyone a reason to believe that the same board members will abide by the laws and operating agreement for TED LLC? People like to blame Leese, but according to the operating agreement he lacked authority and all important acts required a majority vote of the board in the affirmative. Those most responsible are not being held accountable, and until that changes you can expect more of the same.
Education committee is due to begin. Agenda is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/sites/default/files/event-brochures/Education%20Revised%20Committee%20Meeting%209-23-2015.pdf
May be working on Saturday. That will be interesting.
No breakdown on this agenda. Again, Chairman Mason how do we follow this on paper?
Deb Adderbury and Clare for those to go to Washington D.C. for the leadership council of children. There is no leadership in Washington D.C. and the young people shouldn't be exposed at such a young age with such a bad example that is exhibited in the government of the United States of America. What is this Osage Nation education department thinking? If ever a government is broken and disfunctional, is the government of the USA. Of course, this request would be fronted by Deb Adderbury. Makes sense.
Yes, AP Chief. LINE BY LINE BY LINE IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THESE BUDGETS RIGHT ALONG WITH SHANNON EDWARDS. TOO BAD FOR YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING PAID TO DO SO GET OFF YOUR DUFF AND DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ask the Osage people to pay thousands and thousands for these academies and then charging a fee to these children to attend and the families are now not participating and now only 45 children in Osage County who are even going to go forward with this Deb Adderbury education plan with her silly justification speech.
Ah now comes the AP Chief on doers and judged on what they produce? Hahahahaha. Yes. Get the Congress involved to stop this "tightly controlled budgeting." Then this sob threatens to sue and take it to the Osage Supreme Court? Get this defensive joker back to the garden and keep him there.
The whole of Osage County is in an uproar over these academies and you jerks had better reassess your position if you think you can pay out $40,000 to $50,000 each for 45 children in total, IF YOU DO YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MINDS YOU CRAZY POOPLE IN THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT. DO YOU GET THIS NOW OR DO WE NEED TO MAKE IT MORE PLAIN THAN THIS?
Speaker asked if they went over to ask those who work with the children what they thought would work in this after school program. Deb said no. Of course she didn't but it appears that the task force didn't either that made these recommendation to the Chief? Hahahahahaha! 80 kids dropped off after school by parents bouncing off the wall? From 456 down to 30? Kept the same spending budget? Never told the parents they would be charged to attend at $5.00 a day for each kid?
THREE HUNDRED TO FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE A MONTH WHEN YOU ARE ASKING FOR $46,000 FOR EACH CHILD IN THIS PROGRAM? DID ANYONE IN THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT OF THE OSAGE NATION ASK THEMSELVES IF THE FAMILIES OF THE CHILDREN CAN AFFORD THIS AMOUNT MONTHLY OR WERE THEY JUST PANDERING AFTER WHAT THE CHIEF WANTS TO DO? OF COURSE, THE AP CHIEF WANTS TO GO WITH THIS PROGRAM WHETHER THIS WORKS FOR THE COMMUNITY OR NOT. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER OR NOT THIS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM WILL EVEN WORK OR BE A SUCCESS YET YOU HUMBLELESS HIGH HANDED DUNCE.
This is such a mess. Over and over and over again. When are you government people going to do something for the community that makes people inside and outside the Osage Nation happy? This isn't service. It's the exact opposite. $300,000 for the one child academy center in Pawhuska that has everyone in an uproar. Get out of town and don't look back. Shut this stupidity down and give the money to the membership who need this subsidy for their children and will use it wisely.
I can tell you right now, task force or no task force, that Deb person when she was on congress pandered after Chief Gray just like iPad Ray did every chance they got along with that Shannon Edwards. It WAS sickening to watch back then and still is today. One day, as a member of congress she lectured her fellow members because Gray had vetoed 10 bills, "I never thought I would see the day when we as a body would cause the Chief to veto ten of our bills!" or some such HS like you have never heard in your life. Her only real talent is to dance to the tune of the Chief in power and to pander after his wishes. It's bend down a** kissing members of Congress, elected officials and employees just like these who have made such a mess of this government to the loss and detriment of the Osage Nation members. The sheer audacity of such people is staggering.
This is how you recoup the difference in thIs program...and the programs name should be no Osage child without. A community outreach center for children for the surrounding neighborhood. .with federal funding..a hundred dollar flat fee per household and a community tax..now I am with Poster @ 12:40 pm. I cannot believe, not any one of you are prepared to take this task on..all of you are on auto pilot and not one of you can explain how you hope to recoup the 1,350,000 and or how it will be used. Whst and how the criteria will be implemented and so forth.. what is the vision? Is it for profit or another non-profit..Donations? Mostly how is the money going to be used...these are questions that should be coming from our Congress members?
I don't know why they even let that left-wing money chomping Jacobin attend these committee meetings. All he ever does is threaten and insult them. They should bar him from attendence if he can't act any better than a third rate spear carrier. The Osage Congress has every right to question every single line item in every single budget submitted to them on funding and he damn well knows it or by God should know it after we paid his salary all those years to sit as an elected member of the Osage Nation Congress.
Happily, the GovOps Committee is next up. The Agenda which is properly broken down and thank you Chair R.J., is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/sites/default/files/event-brochures/GO-9-23-15_NoticeRevised.pdf
Chief Justice is being be called by phone to justify her budget. Can't show up in person to speak with the Committee or have Miss Red Eagle will speak for her since the CJ while now on the line appears to be unprepared to answer questions. Why am I not surprised?
Court Clerk is now a part time employee. Employee handbook is given as the justification. Does this follow the law? Question comes from Shannon Edwards. Screaming she's out that she's still on the phone. She's cutting out as to reception. Going to call a cell number for the CJ. Getting her back on the horn.
CJ is back but the voice sound is tinny and the reception isn't good. Pay for performance Act is being discussed. 32 hours is full time according to Osage Nation law. Court Clerk works 30 hours a week? How many employees have been reduced to 32 hours a week? Question asked by Shannon Edwards? But the employee still gets full employee benefits? Pulling requirements out of the air right and left Federal or the Nation? What? Compliance for the purpose of Tribal funds alone should be Osage Nation government laws and employee handbook requirements.
Allow healthcare benefit but not any other Osage Nation full time employee benefts. Cases are down this year to 140 cases a year and less than last year with two full time employees and one part time when under 200 cases require only two full time employees. Red Eagle says it's 500 total open cases but not all cases are Osages? This whole budget amount for the Judicial Branch is as much as what the whole government was run on in 2005! Now the CJ is getting her back up about asking these questions. Edwards wants proper budget justifications for a new position but CJ won't speak on the record about this because it's proprietery employee information? What? Come on... Is this a manipulation or what? For a brand new employee? How sensitive a matter could that be?
Want to remove the employee's benefits from the budget according to Osage law and then add back in if Federal laws apply. Will rework the budget to reflect the change.
Discussing the number of open cases to justify the number of employees. Treasurer is here to discuss part time and full time with benefits categories. Appointing CASA and ad lidum guardians.
CJ appears to have put together a good budget but it's through the roof in cost all the same. This is so weird how all these budgets are so high. Budget is adopted by a unanimous vote of the committee.
Tabling the Judicial bill ONCA 15-81 until support documentation is consistant and revised to reflect the change and will put it on tomorrow's committee agenda. 15 minute recess.
These people! A Chief Justice is addressed as Your HONOR or Chief Justice, not MISS Drent. Do we have to pay to have a seminar to teach these elected officials the proper protocol of how to address one another?
Indirect cost funds again and again and again. Staff will be satisfied for four years because their salaries were through the roof way back in 2014. Are they wanting more money in salary increases. Setting salaries. Will go to court...will go to court...will go to court. So will WE about the market salary lies you tell and lack of ethics you have in justifying your yearly salary raid on the treasury. Manage their branches and make the salary decisions. No matter how how high and how scandalous the amount? Just run with it no matter what? This isn't the government we voted for because NO GOVERNMENT CAN JUSTIFY WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH OUR MONEY AND HOW YOU THROW IT AROUND AT ONE ANOTHER LIKE ITS CONFETTI !!!!! YES. AP CHIEF. CREATE THE BUDGET FROM WHAT FUNDING WE HAVE AVAILABLE. DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS IS A CHIEF'S STAFF AND AN EMPLOYEE PAID OUT OF INDIRECT COST. IF WE SUE YOU YOU WANT IT ON THE RECORD? SPREAD OUT IN THREE BUDGETS NOW FROM THE CHIEF'S OFFICE? WITH EMPLOYEES AND APPOINTEES SCATTERED EVERYWHERE WITH NO RHYME OR RHYTHM? IF THEY ARE BUDGETING IMPROPERLY THEN THE CONGRESS HAS A RIGHT TO STEP IN AND ASK FOR AN ACCOUNTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. END OF STORY. WHAT KIND OF STORY IS THIS FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH WITH A TOTAL INCREASE OF $200,000. SPEAKER STOOD UP TO THAT LITTLE DWEEB AND KUGEE IS TELLING HIM THAT IT'S THE JOB OF THE CONGRESS TO SET SPENDING AND THAT INCLUDES SALARIES ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY PROMISE NO RAISES THEY SHOULD LIVE WITH IT AND NOT TRY AND AND END RUN RAISES ANYWAY. SEND THESE BUDGETS BACK TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND A BUNCH OF BUDGETS AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT. STRIKE SECTION THREE? COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE BEING DISCUSSED. Director of Operations is a merited position? Mr. Johnson was advertised as a Chief's appointed. IDC can be used to pay salary and RJ said he recalls that it was OK to fund salaries under IDC. Speaker, Edwards, and Buffalohead protest that they knew. Not in favor of increases in salaries in the Chief's budget. Committee substitute is adopted and strike section 3 of the committtee substitute. RJ arbitrarily adjourned the meeting with a motion on the floor and no motion to adjourn and a second. Woah! Not so happily as it's turned out.
Yes. Big argument with the AP Chief threatening to sue at every turn over salary increases for the Chief's staff when they promised that they would hold salaries for four years in 2014 on tape. Three Office of the Chief's budgets this year? Salaries paid out of indirect costs with the Congress battling back for their right to appropriate money and if that includes salaries and increases in the overall budgets when these three are $200,000 higher than last year? Speaker spoke up to put AP Chief in his place. Edwards said the Executive staff are breaking their word when they were paid way higher than they should be way last year as it was. Kugee stepped up and said the Chief can budget $500,000 for a salary but if there is only $100,000 available then the Congress will appropriate that amount and not the higher figure. RJ arbitrarily ended the meeting without a motion and second even though there was a motion on the floor to delete section 3 of the committee substitute. Not so happily as it turned out.
I’m looking for a job and I’m thinking of applying for a position on the Osage Nation web site….again The main problem I’m concerned about is that I’m not related to anyone important in the Osage government. I understand that it isn’t what you know but who you know in order work for the Osage Nation. It seems that nepotism is fierce and favoritism supercedes experience.
I’ve applied to other positions within the Osage government in the past of which I was qualified with the proper education and experience but the positions always went to a close relative of an elected member or a bureaucrat of the Osage government. The people that were hired either quit or were fired within a few months for some reason or another.
But if by some chance I get hired will I get 40 hours a week? Will I qualify for a retirement plan? Do I have any job security or a grievance procedure if my supervisor decides that his or her relative needs a job and decides to fire me so that relative can have my job? Should I even bother applying for an Osage Nation job?
Brillant questions. The same ones were asked and practices were going on in 1935 when my mother couldn't get a job in Pawhuska and had to leave town or starve because she didn't know the powers that be and couldn't get a job with the Osage Tribe. 80 years of the same old crap. Think about that.
Cultural Committee is live now and no agenda is available for this meeting at all.
Talking about the proposed Ram's stadium in St. Louis and all of the documentation that has been submitted by Dr.Hunter and Chief supports opposition to it.
So the Osage Nation is going to get into a fight with this bunch legally? Is there anyone you government people won't fight with? You're sick really sick and you need help.
The Appropriations committee is due to begin at 9:30 a.m., CSDT. The PDF of the Agenda uploaded to the ON Congress's server is for the GovOPs committee meeting to be held at 1:00 p.m., later on today. The only way at present to see the schedule for today is to go to the Congressional Calendar at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/congress-legislative-branch/calendar for the 24th and click on the top square (dark watermelon in color) and the web page of the agenda will open up in a new window.
Session is live and the Agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/fS6GVn0QXHCEEB7aq0H0b9YqKiSCMNIi8xBb7EfvUbbVlXqiILPskvNtmVGY5zzi?dl=1 It appears that the video of this meeting is not available but the audio is working. Discussion is focussed on the use of indirect cost to pay salaries in the Executive Branch. Treasurer says it's OK but Edwards wants it send it over for an opinion on this matter to the AG. Shannon Edwards is unclear and wants a clarification if this is something that is appropriate. Motion on this passes. Motion to hire a professional to review loan documents. Passes. Motion to hire a professional to review market salaries. Fails due to lack of a second. Motion to hire an accounting firm to review and analyze the gaming plan of operation for 2016. Discussion and motion to the motion for a qualifed finance professional as opposed to an accounting firm. Report on investment to the Congress on the return on investment. Buffalohead is declaring that she is for the motion.
This report is to go to the Congressional Affairs committee. Proposal for the Plan of Operation is different. $171,000,000? Did I hear this figure right? Discussion is going on back and forth. Supernaw says everyone that has spoken to the issue is trying to sell us something.
Maker says to love one another. Meeting on Saturday discussion as to early or late. 8:00 a.m. meeting. Reconvene later on Friday to finish up the work with no Saturday session. Can still seek an extention to the session, can't they?
I want the Congress to revisit that motion to hire a professional to review market salaries of the entire Executive Branch that has been falsely represented by certain members of the Osage government. If the OFPR can step in to hire a consultant to help with this, I would like the lid blown right off of this scam that was finally admitted to by Shannon Edwards who made this disclosure, after having done her Congressional due diligence, during yesterday's Appropriation committee meeting. If salaries are more than double when they should be less than half of what they are at $15 to $20 million going out the door this year, $8 million could be going to a per cap the membership who need this money and will use it far more wisely that seeing it lavished on a just a few hundred Osage government employees who have no right to expect such shocking and unfairly high salaries in the face of Osage Nation member needs all across the country.
The Edwards disclosure came out in the Committee of the Whole discussion during the session day meeting yesterday not in a committee meeting. Correct me here if I'm wrong.
What I want to know is our Chief needs to justify and we are asking the Chief about the propriety of the executive branch collecting a salary that is doubled and not in line with Market Value especially in your area...? This is money that belongs to your People Chief not you...and where is the Erhic's committee on this matter..? I have been warning you all that this Dept. Is out of Control...like Boehner, we may ask for your resignation and or removal. You need to Justify the increase that is out of alignment with your campaign promise? Has the AG looked into this?
Health and Social Services committee is up next. The Agenda is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/sites/default/files/event-brochures/HSS_9-24-15_Notice.pdf
Total confusion on salaries on either a lot more employees or raises or both. Guy talking does not have that information? $291,000 is tribal funding and other high numbers from Federal funds. Decreases and increases no one can seem to understand and no budget justifications? So. Here we go going in on this health compact and no one knows what the hell they are doing with these funding numbers? Once again, if this is such an opaque mess going in, and not even the AP Chief appears to have a clue beyond total confusion on his new Health Compact Branch budget with increases on health insurance for these employees 6% plus 2% not knowing if these costs are in this budget. New spending is for new budgets for new programs and no one knows about an $800,000 figure being discussed.
Hahahahahahahaha!.......... Mr. Potts is the guy they are speaking with as the budget guy being questioned. Could be that they are taking out Federal funds that will tell the Feds we don't need the money for this compact when we do? Woah! Where are these increases in salaries, wages and benefits is what RJ wants to know and these are up 23% identified as employee costs throughout the Nation? THIS BETTER NOT BE TRUE. THIS IS INSANE WITH THIS OSAGE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
GovOps Committee meeting is up next. The Agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/8EE0kGuyyOBiKWYFN3FM7gSysO165deYv65LRKyJHdJqbr0QFNUtsZmTFGkypjmA?dl=1
AP Chief is now appearing to be worried and has just spoken up about the good use of time in this Legislative Branch committee. Now isn't that him sticking his nose in Legislative Business and in Judicial Business as well?
$28,080 for a part time job at 29 hours as a Trial Court Clerk? Are you kidding? Roughly $7,200 higher than the City of Tulsa or OKC would be paying? 25.6% higher than the salary market rate?
New roof. $750,000 for that plus they have to pay rent of $618,000 too? The Nation should have to pay to repair the roof, handle and pay for maintence at the Central Services building?
Realty, Natural Resources (?), and others can compact with the BIA with a clean audit for three years. Tribal Council Resolution #1385? What is this all about?
WHT happened to the rest of the discussion on ONCA 15-79 and these three budgets for the Office of the Chiefs? They were really mixing it up yesterday with a little head banging going on that made for a lively day. A tad too civil today you ask me. A spirited discussion never hurt anybody and we got to see who's on what side and why in clear cut terms. When they start beating one another over the head and it comes to blows then it will be over the top for sure but what happened to cuss and discuss?
Commerce and Economic Development committtee is up next. The Agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/EBqZE8xZSF4ya73piXYy6NCTi794jNKByUb0EYVYE9uYcT41sM5tQaCHy4EJlbvQ?dl=1 Again, ONCA 15-82 is not broken down as to the individual budgets contained within this bill to be discussed today.
World religious leaders are giving a tribute to the World Trade Center victims of 9/11 and it is being broadcast on Vatican TV live at http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/38.htm
Session rebroadcast is located at http://mixlr.com/osage-nation/showreel/?page=1 The Agenda is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/sites/default/files/event-brochures/DAY16A_9-25-15_TZS.pdf
Congress is recessed to the call of the Chair later on today after the Education committee meets this afternoon. This is likely in the 5:00 - 5:30 p.m., CSDT range.
Appropriations committee is up next. The Agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/tQ37l7esoPR3N475XEKX1kPTTlXxQy1LdOYohIaxScK3qQGL9jzxOCG2S0lepJvT?dl=1
GovOps is next. Agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/Enn4pLguXf6Q0X6hElAgbMGQITgYzw2kpT22hhCwS48ShtT4dYcohhbRs9KU5ZHl?dl=1
Education is next. Agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/ubJnuNXCIIoVXTTBmDmyZVCfYZyqPuSNHbmFphP6ItbSDijNFqylvB0uiaOD7S0J?dl=1
New bills today include for a new Greyhorse Community Center and funding for the disabled. When are these demented people going to come up with ways to save money and not find new ways to spend when they don't even have the projected income to fund these things? We really are going to have to consider filing complaints with the AG against these members of Congress who sponsor and co-sponsor this legislation. They are forcing us to take action to protect the financial integrity of the Osage Nation government. If there is an investigation pending on these people for spending what they don't have available during the upcoming election, if they run, we can flag, tag and target them to not be reelected as a result of an ongoing investigation of all the profligate spending they undertake to put forward when they have no funds left to spend by law.
As I have been saying since 2007 the ONG is a bureaucracy merely for the sake of bureaucracy. It is system that consumes everything to perpetually grow larger and more complicated each year. There is no concern for the people - the only goal is to spend revenue on behalf of the government. -------- The “Osage Nation” is a piece of paper, a document that allows those in control of the purse strings to spend revenue on what they and they alone deem important. There will never be a per-cap; the ONG cannot allow money to be given to the Osage people. All the spending is a clever way of denying a per-cap. Instead of a per-cap, the ONG invents “programs” that the politicians use to redirect the money away from the people and toward the bureaucracy. -------- The politicians get to attach their name to a particular program (a bill…aka ONCA) so that they can say “Hey, look at the awesome thing I did for the young and elderly! See what I did for the Osage people?” But these programs are tailor made for a select few. Whether the programs work or not is irrelevant. What matters is that money goes to the government and not to the Osage people in general. -------- Another thing that must be understood is that the ONG considers casino revenue to be the sole property of the government. The casino revenue does not belong to “We the People” but rather the government itself. The “Osage Nation” owns the casinos – not the Osage people. This mentality was argued (and is still argued to this day) about the HPP lawsuit. -------- Wilson Pipestem argued day after day that the HPP monies belong to the “Osage Nation” instead of the Shareholders. As far as the Minerals Estate is concerned, the ONG believes that it owns the estate as well. Just ask Congressman Raymond Recorn and councilwoman Kathryn Redcorn about who owns the estate. And remember Congressman Raymond wants to tax the ME…for the sake of the bureaucracy of course. -------- I know its aggravating to see all the waste, fraud, and abuse. The Osage people were sold a bill of goods that they would benefit greatly from “the right to vote” and to “speak their mind to control their destiny”. It was all lies…nothing but lies to wrest control from the Shareholders. The Shareholders were lied to and duped into believing that the Osages will no longer exist if we don’t change governments and we will lose everything including the ME. Kathryn Redcorn told that story to me back in 2006. Interesting how she and her family has benefited from the new government isn’t it? -------- While it is a good thing to keep an eye on the ONG and it’s politicians we must keep in mind that the bureaucrats are not concerned about your views or opinions. It’s all about power and control and a means to artificially elevate certain “important” Osages above others. The ONG will eventually implode when the casino revenue dries up. This is why the ONG makes claim to the ME to prop up a failed government to keep the bureaucracy alive. The Osage people will starve but the government and its bureaucrats will survive. That’s the game plan folks…but wait until the Feds come in and wipe out the Indian governments once and for all…
At the rate they're going now, the Feds won't need to wipe them out. They're doing a superb job of self-destruction all by themselves. I don't know why the U.S. Congress puts up with this fraud of an Osage government and what they surely must know by now is going on toward the Osage people by the systematic destruction of gaming and other revenue through profligate spending and disastrous business decisions as well as continuing to allow these government Osages to take the advice of disreputable chancers and cheats at every turn without stepping in to stop it.
I listened in and in the section on the amendments, it sounded like there was a freeze on salaries for fy 2016 on ONCA 15-82 and 15-83 when these bills are enacted. Then for ONCA 15-87 and yet on ONCA 15-85 and 15-87 there was a freeze on salaries tied to fy 2015. These were Shannon Edward's amendments. If for 2015, these will expire after September 30, 2015 when the the fiscal year ends won't they and these two last bills won't have a freeze for 2016? This is confusing to say the least. Can anyone please provide a clarification?
They are grappling with the salary increases and reevaluations or readjustments and increase in job duties with salaries increased as a result. Congress does not understand the differences but the amount of increases is unprecented. AP Chief said 75% received pay increases? Members of Congress seem dumbfounded at this figure and are trying to understand what he said.
Raymond Red Corn cannot answer a simple question without losing his temper over a simple explanation in coming to an understanding of the percentage figure. He always flips out and gets radical. This is a valid and appropriate question and yet he continues threats to sue. They promised last year as to the salary evaluation no more raises but want to retain the privilege to raise salaries at will because they are the Executive Branch and don't have to live by the justifcations and promises made from the previous year? To hold them to that is a violation of the separation of powers? WTH kind of a manipultion is that? Ridiculous argument from a ridiculous man.
Double appropriations for salary of the Director of Health in TWO different bills? Committee members are making amendments to reduce the double amount. What is this CRAP now?
Always asking for more money for the employees but what increase in benefits are there to the members of the Osage Nation? Up and up and up and up and up year after year after year with these salaries going higher every year BUT WE DON'T BENEFIT. These salary increases are supposed to be out of HR by law and the AP Chief wants a commendation for those who give raises outside of HR and break the law? You have him on tape! When are you nilly people in Congress going to clean Raymond Redcorn's clock? WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? I don't believe I heard him say this but I sure did.
If the Congress is putting up with this kind of thing from the Executive they should shut down this Branch of government until the Judicial Branch can go through these budget salaries with a fine tooth comb and suspend all operations until an audit can be made as soon as possible with these budgets for FY 2016. If these people are flaunting the law they need to be placed on administrative leave until an investigation can be made into such illegal practices.
Continuing appropriation bill to keep the government open by RJ Walker. Good for you and then get a hearing on its feet to find out what is going on. Shaw is asking if this has ever been done? He doesn't know? The answer is YES! Why are we even paying these members of Congress who have done no homework as to the history of the Osage Nation government? Can you believe this? Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
I can't even get it to come in on my computer. Says I need Flash but I have Flash installed so I don't know. They keep tweaking over there at Osage IT when they should leave success alone - would be my guess.
I second a Congressional Hearing ! Time for a Q and A time for each one of our Congressional members and or lets put a test to them to see how much do they really know about our Constitution and what it means to uphold the law...JRE was a fine example of how poorly he ran the Executive Office..see a trend here my brother and sister Osages..I do..a vote to the People of the Osage Nation should happen immediately to end the entitlement under the color of authority. In my book is called greed. The more money we make the bigger Government becomes, I say a Per-Cap is necessary.
Woah! Where are all of the segments on audio for this committee today? The discussion on the bill on ONCA 15-106 comes after ONCA 15-84 but the only section available on audio is afterward. The first segment is missing from the roster. The earlier segment is where APC Raymond Redcorn is caught red handed promoting those who have broken the law as to those salary increases outside of HR mentioned in an earlier comment. http://mixlr.com/osage-nation/showreel/?page=1
The wrong doing wasn't on the part of the Congress giving out illegal raises. It's the Executive Branch that is responsible and the Assistant Principal Chief Redcorn who advocated for those who have done so out loud and on tape but it appears to have gone missing from the roster of recordings for today's GovOps Committee.
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ReplyDeleteTourism with Eddy Red Eagle speaking. It would be nice to know how much money is being appropriated by the Osage Nation Congress by making this individual budget amount available. $98,000 in total nested in this budget bill ONCA 15-86? Thank you Eddy for asking so we have some clue as to how much we are talking about.
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Donations are in total are $199,500? That's a huge chunk of change going out where and to whom? Shannon Edwards is asking for this total number of donations on a budget justification. Good idea. If tourism is $98,000 and $85,000 for the American Legion Post. There has got to be more than this if these two individual budgets calls for almost all of it. Political contributions mentioned as an example.
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DeleteIt sounds like there are more budgets within the budget bills within those budgets within the final budgets? WTH? We are on a need to know basis and we need to see in writing where this money is going and flowing!
DeleteShannon Edwards said 18,000 to 19,000 members. She should take the time to read the Osage News. It's 19,000 plus another 1,000 or more in 2014. We're 20,000 in membership in county and across the country. The thing to keep in mind is that as of 2010 the City of Aurora, Colorado had a poplulation of 325,078 and is the 56th most populated city in the USA. This city does not float IN TOTAL PER CAPITA the offices, departments, divisions, agencies, boards, commissions, services, programs, study groups, communities, centers, posts, works, branches, task forces, academies and so on and so forth per year as does the Osage Nation government. Now something is horribly wrong here when these numbers are this entirely totally out of whack.
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DeleteTurkey voucher guy! I didn't a thing about a donation for your idea. Ham vouchers for the employees but none for you.
DeleteWhere service goes, $25 million in Tribal spending for the Osage Nation government and $15 million for the membership. Sure looks like they serve themselves first. That's not like any kind of proper funding for government service I've ever heard of other than Communism. Not good and not right.
DeleteKugee was very smartly dressed today in Session. Good to see him doing the Nation's business while looking like a professional instead of a field hand. No offense to field hands intended. The professional people he interacts with would take him more seriously if he dressed and looked the part of a member of the Osage Nation Congress all the time instead of part time. Golfing clothes and sweats and jeans and what all else are unacceptable to the Osage people who deserve respect from the members of our Osage Congress. They are definitely paid well enough to dress well while conducting the business of the Osage people.
ReplyDeleteGovOps Committee is meeting and have tabled two items on today's agenda about the election bill and approval of the election rules and regulations at
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$209,000 for IT? Woah! Circuit 180 bites per month? Other budgets have long distance service that come into IT. Sharepoint package discussion. Internet and intranet possibilities plus professional fees in sharepoint and CRN. Need to subcontract help. Working to stop access to facebook of employees during work time for social media and is open partially. Bandwith is the problem so only business essential services are taking place. Occupancy including rent and space cost $9,200 different and weren't charged before $17,400 insurance for equipment. Travel $$$ small. 18 employees. Two separate budgets for IT and a third listed on the agenda? WTH are they charging rent for after the Osage people have paid millions upon millions for the new campus buildings? I thought they we're being built so we could save rent on the various divisions, departments ettc., of the Osage Nation. Are you kidding? We own these buildings don't we? This is crazy!
DeleteI want an explanation on this rental situation as soon as possible.
DeleteRecycle equipment yearly for machines that aren't quite up to snuff. Planned obsolescence is the order of the day with Internet Technology. Operating systems are pushed forward and have to get the latest product to keep up with what is going on and is expensive using the latest technology. Kugee shows his hard copy file and gets a laugh all around.
DeleteCalee Catcher, Osage Nation Treasurer is giving her report. Slim and trim budget with part of her salary in this budget and the other part in another budget? Really? How does that work exactly?
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ReplyDeleteWow..I guess this is a hint. You just have to take a look and notice almost everyone in our Gov is overweight. .simple fix, change something in your diet like red meat or soda and watch what happens. Women need red meat for the Iron intake most of my servings is no bigger than my fist in anything I eat..Behavior will change after 3 weeks. Takes 3 weeks or 21 days to formulate good eating habits. 20 mins cardio ,the rest with weights. Dumb bells, kettle balls..core exercise ball. For women 5 pd dumbbells to start with..40 mins a day for three weeks. I worked out everyother day it worked for me..Diet I use the Atkins and protein shakes..so simple and you will not feel hungry..funny thing will happen, your taste buds start to want to eat healthy. In other words after three weeks, even your bowel movements will change. Cut back on butter and dressing and cooking if you can with less veg oil and cook fresh with olive oil..I eat fruit. Atkins says not to in the beginning of the diet..lost 14 pounds in two weeks...veggies meat protein shakes and fruit and nuts..get that metabolism moving..you must eat..this is what my diet consists of. Eggs bacon fruit...mid day a shake, lunch a salad with chicken..yes I had a little cheese and cucumber and tomato on my salad..mid say snack nuts and dinner meat and veggies..I am a fifty two year old Osage women in the best health ever..though I have Highblood pressure, genetic and have to take a pill...thats all I take..oh and you can have a beer or two with this diet...still lost the weight. 100% whey protein..I order mine on line thru GNC. Chocolate and strawberry is the best..vanilla is fun cuz I mix juice and fruit sometimes for just a change up..one more thing, if anything you take from this is probiotics..take them they work..that flat stomach is achieved by weight training not running...drink lots of water. .most people walk around in a dehydrated state..I also drink amino acids. Grape, and strawberry lemonade flavors are my tastes. I drink two a day..with just one scoop...two scoops is overwhelming for me..though I can't stop the gray hair lol or my blood pressure, I can be proactive..and so can you..hope this helps..
DeleteThank you! These are terrific suggestions. One of my favorites is a whole block of frozen spinach or other green frozen vegetable in the microwave with two pats of butter and eat the whole thing before you eat anything else for dinner. A small potato or regular serving of rice and baked chicken breast in tin foil with spices to taste. No snacking between meals and get to bed by 9:00 p.m. I also am a fan of popcorn at lunch with no butter or anything else on it at noon and again at 3:00 p.m. I drank a breakfast drink, protein drink will substitute as well and they have some really tasty ones out there including the GNC brand you recommend. Coupled with exercise daily, I lost 10 lbs in one month on this diet and probiotics are good too in live culture yogurt or bottled probiotics powder that you keep in the fridge and add to water or juice. This diet can be used every other day but you have to be careful not to load up on calories on the odd days or you may wind up gaining weight or not lose any weight at all.
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ReplyDeleteSession went well with one of the bills sent back to committee that was to be voted on today. Again, tunnel vision on spending with Buffalohead, this time, carrying on about Hominy not getting the money spent on it as Pawhuska and Greyhorse. This general area has had more spending, $21,000,000, more than any other for less Osage members than Pawhuska. This is turning into a child's game of competition between the three geogaphical areas surrounding the villages with only one or two members of Congress advocating for the rest of the membership outside of these areas and their needs and wants, yet these members of Congress with tunnel villages vision won't hesitate to ask for our votes come election time. Such requests are unjustified and really audaciously unfair until they begin to exhibit a universal legislative spending policy of funding benefitting all members of the Osage Nation.
ReplyDeleteCommerce and Econ committee is live now and the agenda is located at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/JxzcAUhCvyu0XWPQTltxqNBjk2WOD9TnZQbkdOx8jBj3Gdel48xr5gwz14xda6jB?dl=1
ReplyDeleteBrillant idea from Speaker Whitehorn to create a board candidate pool of qualified Osages to serve to submit to the Chief when new board members are to be nominated due to a vacancy. Very good idea to be advertized and under the umbrellla of the Congress to raise awareness of the Gaming Enterprise Board with the public. How many times can Mark Simms be shuffled around? Right? Advertise these board appointments from the Congress side as the Executive is alleged to be too narrow, non-inclusive and political about these appointments.
DeleteIf the Congress wants to do more than ask one question, if that, of all the board members where vetting is concerned on the floor of the Osage Congress that would be better.
Deleteyou mean they actually vet these candidates and do their job to advise and consent? It doesn't work because you Congress don't do the work to vet and make that vote secret if need be to stop these board members who are unqualified from being consented to when they shouldn't be.
DeleteAdvising the Chief is a function of the Congress where board members are concerned so what's the problem?
DeleteIf you're afraid to say no to the appointment of a board member then you should resign. When are these people going to fully flesh out the role they've been elected to fulfill? Afraid? What is that? Cowardice? Ridiculous. When are we going to have grown ups in these elected offices for once?
DeleteGood Idea Osageblogger.
DeleteFinancing plan with business loan agreement is so complicated Congress needs to hire an attorney to review Appendix B of the plan of operation of the gaming operation. Trey Gill says that it's too complicated for him to review and advise the Congress on? Now comes RJ to say we need to go ahead and approve the plan with a waiver of sovereign immunity? Don't move the ball forward until you understand what you are agreeing to ahead of time. A step in deciding if they should approve it. Loan costs money to put together but we shouldn't go there if the terms and conditions of the loan are not understood by the Congress before they approve this Appendix B.
DeleteUnderstanding the Contract is 99% crucial to the Operation. Understanding the provisions is key. Do not go forwarded until the Diligence is done by each and everyone in Congress. Just because RJ says so is now not a go.
DeleteWhen 100s of thousands of dollars in the loan amount they need to have Congressional side legal advice not from the Executive side or the Boards attorney on this matter. Don't side step the responsibility for balance of power protections for the Osage people's money on a loan that is huge and is about $400,000 in size. Don't you think about going there until you are completely satisfied from a legal standpoint that this loan and its terms and conditions are absolutely in the best interest of the Osage people and the Osage Nation government. Hiring your own attorney is the only thing you can do and is the responsible thing to do before you vote to approve Appendix B of the gaming plan of operation for this year. This is a no brainer.
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DeleteEducation committee meeting is up next at 1:00 p.m. CSDT.
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Delete$300,000 for after school in Wynona?
DeleteOsage numbers of students 0-18 years by community request by Shannon Edwards that has not been received so she can review this information. Agenda says consideration of Legislation. What legislation? There is nothing listed, Archie Mason. Aren't you the Chair of this committee? This agenda is light, wouldn't you say? How is the committee supposed to work with an agenda like this?
DeleteWhy is that doof AP Chief so damn defensive and why does he always take a petulant tone every time he has something to say. He's there at the tolerance and generosity of the Committee, not in any formal official capacity. The same tone he took when he end ran those stupid iPads he had to have. Be nice or shut up and go away. If you don't ever get sick of yourself and your ugly bullying attitude, don't think for a New York minute that we don't. Buh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteThats why we call him iPad Ray-Ray. Hahahahahaha! This little piggy can go wee wee wee all the way home and stay there. Don't think most of the members of the Congress wants him in those committee meetings because I hear they don't. With him it's always been a turf war with him siding with the Executive Branch for the most part even when he was on Congress. At least now he's getting paid by the Branch of government whose side he's been on from the beginning.
DeleteCarrying on about a pilot program like Wyah? for tutoring of some kind. Meeting is adjourned.
DeleteMy thoughts and prayers goes out to the family and friends of Mr. Charles Hurlburt who past away last night. We appreciate his years of service to the BIA and the Osage Producers.
ReplyDeleteThank you, James for letting us know about Mr. Hurlburt.
DeleteRip. Mr.Hurlburt. Condolences goes out to the family.
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ReplyDeleteHow many times do we have to hear from the members of Congress that the salaries, wages and benefits in Federal programs have never been done in the budgets this way? Is the Executive Branch Treasurer playing fast and loose with these budgets amounts as to Federal requirements or what?
DeleteDiscussion on an amendment to a motion for 30 to 45 days on the land buy back outreach program.
DeleteMeeting adjourned. Funny exchange afterward. Giver 'er hell R.J.
DeleteRules and Ethics committee up next. No Agenda has been posted to the Congressional web site for this meeting as of yet.
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DeleteSpeaker Whitehorn angling in a very appropriate way to have a committee be there in place to stop appropriations from going over projected revenue.
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Started and are now in recess.
DeleteBack online and working with amendments to legislation.
DeleteWTH is that background noise? It sounds like they are doing the Nation's business beside a raging river.
DeleteTalking about Boards and compensation to change incentive structure for those board members who make money and those who don't. Congresswoman Buffalohead says the Boards and Commissions are a mess as well as the submitted budgets and this bill needs to go back to Congressional Committee for discussion. Vote was successful to do so.
DeleteCommittee of the Whole open discussion on a professional to hire to review the annual plan of operation for gaming and the loan in the plan.
DeleteSent to a CNA for a review. Kugee is in favor of getting a second opinion on the financing package.
DeleteHire a professional to review the financing documents and to review the projected return on investment.
DeletePursuing due diligence and Shannon is getting an e-mail, "Come on!" She is being pushed to go forward? Kugee wants a Congressional based review not someone else's sales review who want this to go forward. Maker is saying they have been reviewing the situation for a long time and when are they going to make up their mind. But his comments do not include a review of the specific loan terms and conditions on a FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR LOAN AMOUNT so Congress can do its separate and required due diligence.
DeleteShannon says raises and compensation for the Osage Nation employees compared to Tulsa government and Oklahoma City government employees in metropolitan areas is over double what city workers are making in the State. What the hell? You bet something is wrong! A full third are asking for raises? AP Chief jumps in with his spin. I knew these inflated numbers as market were false and they were lying from the get go. AP Chief you aren't getting people to move there at any price as to salary so stop running that tired excuse around the block again. You are paying the same who people have lived here and who are local and have been local since you set up this scam to hand out the funds in the Treasury like your own personal loot to raid at will. Scott Johnson is an honest man as head of HR?
DeleteWHAT KIND OFF CRAP A**ED DEAL IS THIS? WE KNEW THEY WERE LYING ABOUT SALARIES IN THE LOCAL AREA AND NOW WE FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE RAIDING THE TREASURY FOR MORE RAISES AND BONUSES? FIRE THE HEAD OF HR WHO IS RUNNING A SCAM LIKE THIS AND EVERYONE OF THE EMPLOYEES WHO DEMAND A RAISE UNDER SUCH A SCAM AGAINST THE OSAGE PEOPLE AND THE PILLAGE OF THEIR MONEY. FIRE ANYONE WHO PUTS FORWARD ANY SUCH JUSTIFICATION WITH LIES LIKE THIS AND GET RID OF THEM STARTING WITH THE AP CHIEF AND THE CHIEF IF HE'S INVOLVED. THIS IS A BOMBSHELL REVEALED HERE TODAY AND CONFIRMED BY SHANNON EDWARDS WITH NO BETTER OR GREATER SERVICES FOR THE OSAGE PEOPLE THIS SCAM OF GOVERNMENT WAS PUT FORWARD TO BE SERVING US AND NOT THROWING CASH AROUND AT ONE ANOTHER ON 535 EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE NOT RELOCATED FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE BUT HAVE LIVED RIGHT IN THE LOCAL AREA ALL ALONG. PROVE THAT STATEMENT AND LIST WHO HAS MOVED TO THE LOCAL AREA TO JUSTIFY MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT THESE EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE PAID. GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteI heard $400 million and bonds being floated or some such to build that hotel in N Tulsa already saturated with hotels in the area.
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So we are funding the dance school, the ballet students with scholarships and the WZI Ballet to give them hope to see the Pope in Philadelphia? This is a private business we are supporting and a religious oriented event that the Foundation is supporting with the Osage peoples money? Is this appropriate use of government funds? You can't just go out and ask for money? This Foundation has been open for contributions for years and years. The board member Pillsbury has made this idiotic statement? So in her elevated opinion, when will they they be in a position to go out and ask for donations? Get rid of this idiot ASAP and everyone who follows this advice. Putting together a plan? For what? To start raising money for the Osage Foundation beginning in 2050? Hahahahahaha! It's just one scam with this Osage Nation after another. I think this damn Foundation began with legislation put in place by the FIRST OSAGE NATION CONGRESS. GET RID OF THIS STUPIDITY !!!!!! A MILLION DOLLARS OF TRIBAL FUNDING? WTH DOES THAT MEAN? $155,000 but no Gala and no golf tournament? What are they doing? Need sponsorship from gaming and lost that so that's right back in our pocket one way or the other. Those cancelled events were fundraisers. THIS IS ANOTHER MONEY DRAIN. SHUT THIS DAMN THING DOWN NOW !!!!!! THEN LET US ASK FOR MONEY FROM THE OSAGE NATION GOVERNMENT AND IT WILL COST US LESS AS WE STILL HAVE THAT ANYWAY. THIS IS A FOS DEAL AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!! FLUSH THIS DOWN THE TOILET. MY GOD IN HEAVEN AND HAVEN'T RAISED ANY MONEY ALL YEAR? Hahahahahahahha! GTHO! FORGET THIS THING AND GET RID OF IT.
DeleteSHANNON EDWARD'S BABY AND SHIRLEY PILLSBURY WITH THE CHIEF'S VISION? Hahahahahaha. Is to be self-sustaining. WHEN? THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. Give the funding for the Foundation directly to the Osage Nation members outside of Osage County WHO REALLY NEED THIS MONEY !!!!!!!!! SCAM AFTER SCAM AFTER SCAM AFTER SCAM AFTER SCAM. BILL WEBB GETS $57,600 IN COMPENSATION FOR A PROFESSIONAL FEE CONTRACT? FOR WHAT? WITH NO MONEY BEING RAISED OR MADE BY THE FOUNDATION? NOW RUNNING THE RANCH WITH 9,000 ACRES OF LAND? BUT USED TO RUN THE GOLF TOURNAMENT AND THE GALA? WHAT EXPERIENCE WOULD THIS GUY HAVE TO NOW RUN A RANCH? THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT AND HARD WORK FROM PARTIES AND GOLF TOURNAMENTS. THIS IS TURNING INTO ANOTHER NIGHTMARE WITH AN UNQUALIFIED PERSON RUNNING THE FREEMAN RANCH? HOW BAD IS THIS GOING TO GET? SHANNON EDWARDS WILL YOU SNAP OUT OF YOUR JUNIOR LEAGUE MENTALITY AND TRY AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE WITH THE OSAGE PEOPLE'S MONEY THAT BENEFITS MAINLY YOU PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE OSAGE? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteThe Osage Nation Foundation has been since 2005, but it doesn't legally exist. The laws of the Osage Nation do not provide for the formation or governance of corporations. This "non-profit corporation" was formed before the Osage Nation came into existence when its constitution was ratified in March 2006. Why would the Osage Nation fund a non-governmental entity, and especially one which isn't organized in compliance with Osage Nation law?
Deletehttp://www.osagefoundation.org/index.php/about/aboutstrategic-plan/
Utility Authority $139,950? Yet another unnecessary and unneeded division or department to justify the continued raid on the Osage Nation Treasury like it's nothing other than a Pirate's Chest filled with loot?
DeleteThe Congress did create legislation for the Foundation years ago and I will get back with you on this.
DeleteRight now Eddy Red Eagle comes now for money for the ONES -- Osage Nation Energy Services LLC. Projects they are looking into? How long has this entity been around making no money and with their hand out year after year? Have only $25K in the bank when they were originally given seed money for what $100K? Just an outrage here again. This one is Standing Bear's baby when he was still in the Congress. Been awarded a grant from the state of OK? For what and why? Now strapped for cash when they went right out and the Board authorized the purchase of a building instead of using the money to do the work for which they were created. Add $10,000 to the budget for professional fees by Ron Shaw? BUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Meeting is adjourned.
DeleteShaw is another one whose campaign promises are empty as hell. He ran on a platform where he will develop a method for the Osage people to weigh in yea or nay on all big ticket capital expenditures of the Osage Nation to find out whether or not we approve of them. Where is his legislation for that? Did we get a say on compacting the healthcare by these total incompetents? The campus plan and now this $400,000 hotel expansion of the Tulsa casino that has got to be the most derelict idea since they tried to float that idiotic statue for $10 million of our money. He's as full of crap as the rest of them. If one member of one of those prominent Osage families asks him for money, he can't give it out fast enough as today's example so perfectly illustrates. Sick and sickening the back stabbing liars, chancers and thieves we have running this government, past and present, isn't it?
DeleteDon't forget cheats.
DeleteTo the poster at 11:34 AM. I'll concede that the Osage Nation Foundation was created by legislative act, but the act has no basis in law. Before a corporation can be formed, a code under which corporations are governed must first be enacted. To this day, Title 4 of the Osage Nation Code only provides for Limited Liability Companies. Title 4 Chapter 1 for Corporations is "[Reserved]" and until this section exists no corporations can be formed or operated under the laws of the Osage Nation. Given that the Osage Nation Foundation is not organized under a different jurisdiction either, it does not legally exist.
DeleteI have a lot of questions and something is a foul. Should we codify the ONC, would down size big government. So where and hiw was the funds used? This is unlawful taking? Andillegal taking, and the AG has the decretion to open a investigation and the Fedral Government should investigate as well?
DeleteThe bigger issue remains to be asked and answered. What good are laws codified in the Osage Nation Code if they are not adhered to by anyone, including the elected officials? The laws have been disregarded when it comes to the Osage Nation Foundation, and the Osage LLC board has consistently failed to abide by the them even when chastised to do so (i.e., relocate its offices onto land under ON jurisdiction). OLLC also failed to abide by the terms of its operating agreement. What gives anyone a reason to believe that the same board members will abide by the laws and operating agreement for TED LLC? People like to blame Leese, but according to the operating agreement he lacked authority and all important acts required a majority vote of the board in the affirmative. Those most responsible are not being held accountable, and until that changes you can expect more of the same.
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Meeting is now live.
DeleteMay be working on Saturday. That will be interesting.
DeleteNo breakdown on this agenda. Again, Chairman Mason how do we follow this on paper?
Deb Adderbury and Clare for those to go to Washington D.C. for the leadership council of children. There is no leadership in Washington D.C. and the young people shouldn't be exposed at such a young age with such a bad example that is exhibited in the government of the United States of America. What is this Osage Nation education department thinking? If ever a government is broken and disfunctional, is the government of the USA. Of course, this request would be fronted by Deb Adderbury. Makes sense.
Yes, AP Chief. LINE BY LINE BY LINE IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THESE BUDGETS RIGHT ALONG WITH SHANNON EDWARDS. TOO BAD FOR YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING PAID TO DO SO GET OFF YOUR DUFF AND DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteSylvan Learning is being cut and the discussion around this loss which is causing a lot of concern.
DeleteAsk the Osage people to pay thousands and thousands for these academies and then charging a fee to these children to attend and the families are now not participating and now only 45 children in Osage County who are even going to go forward with this Deb Adderbury education plan with her silly justification speech.
DeleteAh now comes the AP Chief on doers and judged on what they produce? Hahahahaha. Yes. Get the Congress involved to stop this "tightly controlled budgeting." Then this sob threatens to sue and take it to the Osage Supreme Court? Get this defensive joker back to the garden and keep him there.
The whole of Osage County is in an uproar over these academies and you jerks had better reassess your position if you think you can pay out $40,000 to $50,000 each for 45 children in total, IF YOU DO YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MINDS YOU CRAZY POOPLE IN THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT. DO YOU GET THIS NOW OR DO WE NEED TO MAKE IT MORE PLAIN THAN THIS?
Speaker asked if they went over to ask those who work with the children what they thought would work in this after school program. Deb said no. Of course she didn't but it appears that the task force didn't either that made these recommendation to the Chief? Hahahahahaha! 80 kids dropped off after school by parents bouncing off the wall? From 456 down to 30? Kept the same spending budget? Never told the parents they would be charged to attend at $5.00 a day for each kid?
DeleteTHREE HUNDRED TO FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS MORE A MONTH WHEN YOU ARE ASKING FOR $46,000 FOR EACH CHILD IN THIS PROGRAM?
DeleteDID ANYONE IN THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT OF THE OSAGE NATION ASK THEMSELVES IF THE FAMILIES OF THE CHILDREN CAN AFFORD THIS AMOUNT MONTHLY OR WERE THEY JUST PANDERING AFTER WHAT THE CHIEF WANTS TO DO? OF COURSE, THE AP CHIEF WANTS TO GO WITH THIS PROGRAM WHETHER THIS WORKS FOR THE COMMUNITY OR NOT. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER OR NOT THIS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM WILL EVEN WORK OR BE A SUCCESS YET YOU HUMBLELESS HIGH HANDED DUNCE.
This is such a mess. Over and over and over again. When are you government people going to do something for the community that makes people inside and outside the Osage Nation happy? This isn't service. It's the exact opposite. $300,000 for the one child academy center in Pawhuska that has everyone in an uproar. Get out of town and don't look back. Shut this stupidity down and give the money to the membership who need this subsidy for their children and will use it wisely.
DeleteI can tell you right now, task force or no task force, that Deb person when she was on congress pandered after Chief Gray just like iPad Ray did every chance they got along with that Shannon Edwards. It WAS sickening to watch back then and still is today. One day, as a member of congress she lectured her fellow members because Gray had vetoed 10 bills, "I never thought I would see the day when we as a body would cause the Chief to veto ten of our bills!" or some such HS like you have never heard in your life. Her only real talent is to dance to the tune of the Chief in power and to pander after his wishes. It's bend down a** kissing members of Congress, elected officials and employees just like these who have made such a mess of this government to the loss and detriment of the Osage Nation members. The sheer audacity of such people is staggering.
DeleteNow you see the Minority.
DeleteThis is how you recoup the difference in thIs program...and the programs name should be no Osage child without. A community outreach center for children for the surrounding neighborhood. .with federal funding..a hundred dollar flat fee per household and a community tax..now I am with Poster @ 12:40 pm. I cannot believe, not any one of you are prepared to take this task on..all of you are on auto pilot and not one of you can explain how you hope to recoup the 1,350,000 and or how it will be used. Whst and how the criteria will be implemented and so forth.. what is the vision? Is it for profit or another non-profit..Donations? Mostly how is the money going to be used...these are questions that should be coming from our Congress members?
DeleteI don't know why they even let that left-wing money chomping Jacobin attend these committee meetings. All he ever does is threaten and insult them. They should bar him from attendence if he can't act any better than a third rate spear carrier. The Osage Congress has every right to question every single line item in every single budget submitted to them on funding and he damn well knows it or by God should know it after we paid his salary all those years to sit as an elected member of the Osage Nation Congress.
DeleteHappily, the GovOps Committee is next up.
ReplyDeleteThe Agenda which is properly broken down and thank you Chair R.J., is located at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/sites/default/files/event-brochures/GO-9-23-15_NoticeRevised.pdf
Live now.
DeleteChief Justice is being be called by phone to justify her budget. Can't show up in person to speak with the Committee or have Miss Red Eagle will speak for her since the CJ while now on the line appears to be unprepared to answer questions. Why am I not surprised?
DeleteCourt Clerk is now a part time employee. Employee handbook is given as the justification. Does this follow the law? Question comes from Shannon Edwards. Screaming she's out that she's still on the phone. She's cutting out as to reception. Going to call a cell number for the CJ. Getting her back on the horn.
DeleteCJ is back but the voice sound is tinny and the reception isn't good. Pay for performance Act is being discussed. 32 hours is full time according to Osage Nation law. Court Clerk works 30 hours a week? How many employees have been reduced to 32 hours a week? Question asked by Shannon Edwards? But the employee still gets full employee benefits? Pulling requirements out of the air right and left Federal or the Nation? What? Compliance for the purpose of Tribal funds alone should be Osage Nation government laws and employee handbook requirements.
DeleteAllow healthcare benefit but not any other Osage Nation full time employee benefts. Cases are down this year to 140 cases a year and less than last year with two full time employees and one part time when under 200 cases require only two full time employees. Red Eagle says it's 500 total open cases but not all cases are Osages? This whole budget amount for the Judicial Branch is as much as what the whole government was run on in 2005! Now the CJ is getting her back up about asking these questions. Edwards wants proper budget justifications for a new position but CJ won't speak on the record about this because it's proprietery employee information? What? Come on... Is this a manipulation or what? For a brand new employee? How sensitive a matter could that be?
DeleteWant to remove the employee's benefits from the budget according to Osage law and then add back in if Federal laws apply. Will rework the budget to reflect the change.
DeleteDiscussing the number of open cases to justify the number of employees. Treasurer is here to discuss part time and full time with benefits categories. Appointing CASA and ad lidum guardians.
DeleteCJ appears to have put together a good budget but it's through the roof in cost all the same. This is so weird how all these budgets are so high. Budget is adopted by a unanimous vote of the committee.
DeleteTabling the Judicial bill ONCA 15-81 until support documentation is consistant and revised to reflect the change and will put it on tomorrow's committee agenda. 15 minute recess.
DeleteThese people! A Chief Justice is addressed as Your HONOR or Chief Justice, not MISS Drent. Do we have to pay to have a seminar to teach these elected officials the proper protocol of how to address one another?
DeleteI couldvnot more then agree. It's your Honor. It's like going to your priest and calling him by his first name,... awkward. Always father.
DeleteOffice of the Chief's budget. This ought to be something. $1,715,000 round number in total.
DeleteIndirect cost funds again and again and again. Staff will be satisfied for four years because their salaries were through the roof way back in 2014. Are they wanting more money in salary increases. Setting salaries. Will go to court...will go to court...will go to court. So will WE about the market salary lies you tell and lack of ethics you have in justifying your yearly salary raid on the treasury. Manage their branches and make the salary decisions. No matter how how high and how scandalous the amount? Just run with it no matter what? This isn't the government we voted for because NO GOVERNMENT CAN JUSTIFY WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH OUR MONEY AND HOW YOU THROW IT AROUND AT ONE ANOTHER LIKE ITS CONFETTI !!!!! YES. AP CHIEF. CREATE THE BUDGET FROM WHAT FUNDING WE HAVE AVAILABLE. DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS IS A CHIEF'S STAFF AND AN EMPLOYEE PAID OUT OF INDIRECT COST. IF WE SUE YOU YOU WANT IT ON THE RECORD? SPREAD OUT IN THREE BUDGETS NOW FROM THE CHIEF'S OFFICE? WITH EMPLOYEES AND APPOINTEES SCATTERED EVERYWHERE WITH NO RHYME OR RHYTHM? IF THEY ARE BUDGETING IMPROPERLY THEN THE CONGRESS HAS A RIGHT TO STEP IN AND ASK FOR AN ACCOUNTING FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. END OF STORY. WHAT KIND OF STORY IS THIS FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH WITH A TOTAL INCREASE OF $200,000. SPEAKER STOOD UP TO THAT LITTLE DWEEB AND KUGEE IS TELLING HIM THAT IT'S THE JOB OF THE CONGRESS TO SET SPENDING AND THAT INCLUDES SALARIES ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY PROMISE NO RAISES THEY SHOULD LIVE WITH IT AND NOT TRY AND AND END RUN RAISES ANYWAY. SEND THESE BUDGETS BACK TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND A BUNCH OF BUDGETS AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT. STRIKE SECTION THREE? COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE BEING DISCUSSED. Director of Operations is a merited position? Mr. Johnson was advertised as a Chief's appointed. IDC can be used to pay salary and RJ said he recalls that it was OK to fund salaries under IDC. Speaker, Edwards, and Buffalohead protest that they knew. Not in favor of increases in salaries in the Chief's budget. Committee substitute is adopted and strike section 3 of the committtee substitute. RJ arbitrarily adjourned the meeting with a motion on the floor and no motion to adjourn and a second. Woah! Not so happily as it's turned out.
DeleteWell! That was pure bedlam in the end now wasn't it?
DeleteYes. Big argument with the AP Chief threatening to sue at every turn over salary increases for the Chief's staff when they promised that they would hold salaries for four years in 2014 on tape. Three Office of the Chief's budgets this year? Salaries paid out of indirect costs with the Congress battling back for their right to appropriate money and if that includes salaries and increases in the overall budgets when these three are $200,000 higher than last year? Speaker spoke up to put AP Chief in his place. Edwards said the Executive staff are breaking their word when they were paid way higher than they should be way last year as it was. Kugee stepped up and said the Chief can budget $500,000 for a salary but if there is only $100,000 available then the Congress will appropriate that amount and not the higher figure. RJ arbitrarily ended the meeting without a motion and second even though there was a motion on the floor to delete section 3 of the committee substitute. Not so happily as it turned out.
DeleteI’m looking for a job and I’m thinking of applying for a position on the Osage Nation web site….again The main problem I’m concerned about is that I’m not related to anyone important in the Osage government. I understand that it isn’t what you know but who you know in order work for the Osage Nation. It seems that nepotism is fierce and favoritism supercedes experience.
ReplyDeleteI’ve applied to other positions within the Osage government in the past of which I was qualified with the proper education and experience but the positions always went to a close relative of an elected member or a bureaucrat of the Osage government. The people that were hired either quit or were fired within a few months for some reason or another.
But if by some chance I get hired will I get 40 hours a week? Will I qualify for a retirement plan? Do I have any job security or a grievance procedure if my supervisor decides that his or her relative needs a job and decides to fire me so that relative can have my job? Should I even bother applying for an Osage Nation job?
Brillant questions. The same ones were asked and practices were going on in 1935 when my mother couldn't get a job in Pawhuska and had to leave town or starve because she didn't know the powers that be and couldn't get a job with the Osage Tribe. 80 years of the same old crap. Think about that.
DeleteCultural Committee is live now and no agenda is available for this meeting at all.
ReplyDeleteTalking about the proposed Ram's stadium in St. Louis and all of the documentation that has been submitted by Dr.Hunter and Chief supports opposition to it.
So the Osage Nation is going to get into a fight with this bunch legally? Is there anyone you government people won't fight with? You're sick really sick and you need help.
DeletePratt says good for the Seminoles when they claimed sacred ground in Florida and then built a casino on it? What is up with that?
DeleteThe meeting was finally adjourned.
DeleteWhat a legislative day this one was. Wow is putting it mildly!
ReplyDeleteomg!
DeleteTo listen in again visit http://mixlr.com/osage-nation/showreel/?page=1
DeleteYesterday's discussions were well worth it.
The Appropriations committee is due to begin at 9:30 a.m., CSDT. The PDF of the Agenda uploaded to the ON Congress's server is for the GovOPs committee meeting to be held at 1:00 p.m., later on today. The only way at present to see the schedule for today is to go to the Congressional Calendar at https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/who-we-are/congress-legislative-branch/calendar for the 24th and click on the top square (dark watermelon in color) and the web page of the agenda will open up in a new window.
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Discussion is focussed on the use of indirect cost to pay salaries in the Executive Branch. Treasurer says it's OK but Edwards wants it send it over for an opinion on this matter to the AG. Shannon Edwards is unclear and wants a clarification if this is something that is appropriate. Motion on this passes. Motion to hire a professional to review loan documents. Passes. Motion to hire a professional to review market salaries. Fails due to lack of a second. Motion to hire an accounting firm to review and analyze the gaming plan of operation for 2016. Discussion and motion to the motion for a qualifed finance professional as opposed to an accounting firm. Report on investment to the Congress on the return on investment. Buffalohead is declaring that she is for the motion.
This report is to go to the Congressional Affairs committee. Proposal for the Plan of Operation is different. $171,000,000? Did I hear this figure right? Discussion is going on back and forth. Supernaw says everyone that has spoken to the issue is trying to sell us something.
DeleteYes! Motion passes. Edwards wants to have a discussion on civility in committee of the whole. Motion passes. GOOD. This is needed.
DeleteEdwards wants cell phones off, no texts of what is happening on the internet. She apologized to the body.
DeleteApology from Pratt. Passionate but need professional courtesy to prevail from Maker.
DeleteAP Chief comments. Contentious period in appropriations. Then stop threatening to sue everytime you turn around.
DeleteGender comments about mistreatment from Edwards.
DeleteMaker says to love one another. Meeting on Saturday discussion as to early or late. 8:00 a.m. meeting. Reconvene later on Friday to finish up the work with no Saturday session. Can still seek an extention to the session, can't they?
DeleteSpeaker will extend the Session in order to deal with Executive vetos.
DeleteShaw wants Saturday to get back on track with appropriation bills.
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DeleteI want the Congress to revisit that motion to hire a professional to review market salaries of the entire Executive Branch that has been falsely represented by certain members of the Osage government. If the OFPR can step in to hire a consultant to help with this, I would like the lid blown right off of this scam that was finally admitted to by Shannon Edwards who made this disclosure, after having done her Congressional due diligence, during yesterday's Appropriation committee meeting. If salaries are more than double when they should be less than half of what they are at $15 to $20 million going out the door this year, $8 million could be going to a per cap the membership who need this money and will use it far more wisely that seeing it lavished on a just a few hundred Osage government employees who have no right to expect such shocking and unfairly high salaries in the face of Osage Nation member needs all across the country.
DeleteThe Edwards disclosure came out in the Committee of the Whole discussion during the session day meeting yesterday not in a committee meeting. Correct me here if I'm wrong.
DeleteWhat I want to know is our Chief needs to justify and we are asking the Chief about the propriety of the executive branch collecting a salary that is doubled and not in line with Market Value especially in your area...? This is money that belongs to your People Chief not you...and where is the Erhic's committee on this matter..? I have been warning you all that this Dept. Is out of Control...like Boehner, we may ask for your resignation and or removal. You need to Justify the increase that is out of alignment with your campaign promise? Has the AG looked into this?
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DeleteFYI: The session day meetings are interesting but the really fascinating action and interaction often takes place in the committee meetings.
DeleteRecording static is through the roof today for some reason.
DeleteWorking with budget number adjustments up or down.
DeleteTotal confusion on salaries on either a lot more employees or raises or both. Guy talking does not have that information? $291,000 is tribal funding and other high numbers from Federal funds. Decreases and increases no one can seem to understand and no budget justifications? So. Here we go going in on this health compact and no one knows what the hell they are doing with these funding numbers? Once again, if this is such an opaque mess going in, and not even the AP Chief appears to have a clue beyond total confusion on his new Health Compact Branch budget with increases on health insurance for these employees 6% plus 2% not knowing if these costs are in this budget. New spending is for new budgets for new programs and no one knows about an $800,000 figure being discussed.
DeleteHahahahahahahaha!.......... Mr. Potts is the guy they are speaking with as the budget guy being questioned. Could be that they are taking out Federal funds that will tell the Feds we don't need the money for this compact when we do? Woah! Where are these increases in salaries, wages and benefits is what RJ wants to know and these are up 23% identified as employee costs throughout the Nation? THIS BETTER NOT BE TRUE. THIS IS INSANE WITH THIS OSAGE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
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DeleteThis should be interesting as RJ, Chair, cut this meeting off abruptly. Very contentious as to Executive staff salaries yesterday.
DeleteReworking through the part time employee insurance of a Judicial Branch employee on this budget.
DeleteOn the phone with the Chief Justice as to this matter.
DeleteAP Chief is now appearing to be worried and has just spoken up about the good use of time in this Legislative Branch committee. Now isn't that him sticking his nose in Legislative Business and in Judicial Business as well?
Delete$28,080 for a part time job at 29 hours as a Trial Court Clerk? Are you kidding? Roughly $7,200 higher than the City of Tulsa or OKC would be paying? 25.6% higher than the salary market rate?
DeleteBack to ONCA 5-84. $944,000? Tribal development and land acquisition segment of this budget.
DeleteNew roof. $750,000 for that plus they have to pay rent of $618,000 too? The Nation should have to pay to repair the roof, handle and pay for maintence at the Central Services building?
DeleteOccupancy gone up 310% in this budget?
DeleteAnother building built in a year to house Tribal Works? Really?
DeletePRT and domestic violence building in Skiatook to be built and another one there too? Did I hear this correctly?
DeleteCobell Land Buy Back Program is being reviewed by Bruce Cass.
DeleteRestricted property bought by the Nation under this program goes direct into Trust for the Osage Nation and is better with better benefits.
DeleteStrategic Planning Budget and are discussing the grants are being discussed. $8 million has been awarded? of $20 some odd million applied for.
DeleteOffice of Self-Governance? Great things said about Candy Thomas and her leadership. Two new compliance hires?
DeleteSalaries and fringe are $80,000 of $88,000?
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DeleteRealty, Natural Resources (?), and others can compact with the BIA with a clean audit for three years. Tribal Council Resolution #1385? What is this all about?
DeleteTax Commission report was given. Meeting adjourned.
DeleteWHT happened to the rest of the discussion on ONCA 15-79 and these three budgets for the Office of the Chiefs? They were really mixing it up yesterday with a little head banging going on that made for a lively day. A tad too civil today you ask me. A spirited discussion never hurt anybody and we got to see who's on what side and why in clear cut terms. When they start beating one another over the head and it comes to blows then it will be over the top for sure but what happened to cuss and discuss?
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DeleteNatural Resources is $400,000?
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ReplyDeleteNew bills today include for a new Greyhorse Community Center and funding for the disabled. When are these demented people going to come up with ways to save money and not find new ways to spend when they don't even have the projected income to fund these things? We really are going to have to consider filing complaints with the AG against these members of Congress who sponsor and co-sponsor this legislation. They are forcing us to take action to protect the financial integrity of the Osage Nation government. If there is an investigation pending on these people for spending what they don't have available during the upcoming election, if they run, we can flag, tag and target them to not be reelected as a result of an ongoing investigation of all the profligate spending they undertake to put forward when they have no funds left to spend by law.
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DeleteAs I have been saying since 2007 the ONG is a bureaucracy merely for the sake of bureaucracy. It is system that consumes everything to perpetually grow larger and more complicated each year. There is no concern for the people - the only goal is to spend revenue on behalf of the government. --------
The “Osage Nation” is a piece of paper, a document that allows those in control of the purse strings to spend revenue on what they and they alone deem important. There will never be a per-cap; the ONG cannot allow money to be given to the Osage people. All the spending is a clever way of denying a per-cap. Instead of a per-cap, the ONG invents “programs” that the politicians use to redirect the money away from the people and toward the bureaucracy. -------- The politicians get to attach their name to a particular program (a bill…aka ONCA) so that they can say “Hey, look at the awesome thing I did for the young and elderly! See what I did for the Osage people?” But these programs are tailor made for a select few. Whether the programs work or not is irrelevant. What matters is that money goes to the government and not to the Osage people in general. -------- Another thing that must be understood is that the ONG considers casino revenue to be the sole property of the government. The casino revenue does not belong to “We the People” but rather the government itself. The “Osage Nation” owns the casinos – not the Osage people. This mentality was argued (and is still argued to this day) about the HPP lawsuit. -------- Wilson Pipestem argued day after day that the HPP monies belong to the “Osage Nation” instead of the Shareholders. As far as the Minerals Estate is concerned, the ONG believes that it owns the estate as well. Just ask Congressman Raymond Recorn and councilwoman Kathryn Redcorn about who owns the estate. And remember Congressman Raymond wants to tax the ME…for the sake of the bureaucracy of course. -------- I know its aggravating to see all the waste, fraud, and abuse. The Osage people were sold a bill of goods that they would benefit greatly from “the right to vote” and to “speak their mind to control their destiny”. It was all lies…nothing but lies to wrest control from the Shareholders. The Shareholders were lied to and duped into believing that the Osages will no longer exist if we don’t change governments and we will lose everything including the ME. Kathryn Redcorn told that story to me back in 2006. Interesting how she and her family has benefited from the new government isn’t it? -------- While it is a good thing to keep an eye on the ONG and it’s politicians we must keep in mind that the bureaucrats are not concerned about your views or opinions. It’s all about power and control and a means to artificially elevate certain “important” Osages above others. The ONG will eventually implode when the casino revenue dries up. This is why the ONG makes claim to the ME to prop up a failed government to keep the bureaucracy alive. The Osage people will starve but the government and its bureaucrats will survive. That’s the game plan folks…but wait until the Feds come in and wipe out the Indian governments once and for all…
At the rate they're going now, the Feds won't need to wipe them out. They're doing a superb job of self-destruction all by themselves. I don't know why the U.S. Congress puts up with this fraud of an Osage government and what they surely must know by now is going on toward the Osage people by the systematic destruction of gaming and other revenue through profligate spending and disastrous business decisions as well as continuing to allow these government Osages to take the advice of disreputable chancers and cheats at every turn without stepping in to stop it.
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DeleteI listened in and in the section on the amendments, it sounded like there was a freeze on salaries for fy 2016 on ONCA 15-82 and 15-83 when these bills are enacted. Then for ONCA 15-87 and yet on ONCA 15-85 and 15-87 there was a freeze on salaries tied to fy 2015. These were Shannon Edward's amendments. If for 2015, these will expire after September 30, 2015 when the the fiscal year ends won't they and these two last bills won't have a freeze for 2016? This is confusing to say the least. Can anyone please provide a clarification?
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ReplyDeleteThey are grappling with the salary increases and reevaluations or readjustments and increase in job duties with salaries increased as a result. Congress does not understand the differences but the amount of increases is unprecented. AP Chief said 75% received pay increases? Members of Congress seem dumbfounded at this figure and are trying to understand what he said.
DeleteRaymond Red Corn cannot answer a simple question without losing his temper over a simple explanation in coming to an understanding of the percentage figure. He always flips out and gets radical. This is a valid and appropriate question and yet he continues threats to sue. They promised last year as to the salary evaluation no more raises but want to retain the privilege to raise salaries at will because they are the Executive Branch and don't have to live by the justifcations and promises made from the previous year? To hold them to that is a violation of the separation of powers? WTH kind of a manipultion is that? Ridiculous argument from a ridiculous man.
DeleteDouble appropriations for salary of the Director of Health in TWO different bills? Committee members are making amendments to reduce the double amount. What is this CRAP now?
DeleteDiscussing the Federal CFR implications of the salary increases of the Osage Police.
DeleteAlways asking for more money for the employees but what increase in benefits are there to the members of the Osage Nation? Up and up and up and up and up year after year after year with these salaries going higher every year BUT WE DON'T BENEFIT. These salary increases are supposed to be out of HR by law and the AP Chief wants a commendation for those who give raises outside of HR and break the law? You have him on tape! When are you nilly people in Congress going to clean Raymond Redcorn's clock? WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? I don't believe I heard him say this but I sure did.
DeleteIf the Congress is putting up with this kind of thing from the Executive they should shut down this Branch of government until the Judicial Branch can go through these budget salaries with a fine tooth comb and suspend all operations until an audit can be made as soon as possible with these budgets for FY 2016. If these people are flaunting the law they need to be placed on administrative leave until an investigation can be made into such illegal practices.
DeleteI want an Osage Nation Congressional hearing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteContinuing appropriation bill to keep the government open by RJ Walker. Good for you and then get a hearing on its feet to find out what is going on. Shaw is asking if this has ever been done? He doesn't know? The answer is YES! Why are we even paying these members of Congress who have done no homework as to the history of the Osage Nation government? Can you believe this? Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
DeleteIs the reception on this meeting cutting in and out with anyone else on the internet listening?
DeleteIt says off-air now. To listen again, see http://mixlr.com/osage-nation/showreel/?page=1
DeleteI can't even get it to come in on my computer. Says I need Flash but I have Flash installed so I don't know. They keep tweaking over there at Osage IT when they should leave success alone - would be my guess.
DeleteI second a Congressional Hearing ! Time for a Q and A time for each one of our Congressional members and or lets put a test to them to see how much do they really know about our Constitution and what it means to uphold the law...JRE was a fine example of how poorly he ran the Executive Office..see a trend here my brother and sister Osages..I do..a vote to the People of the Osage Nation should happen immediately to end the entitlement under the color of authority. In my book is called greed. The more money we make the bigger Government becomes, I say a Per-Cap is necessary.
DeleteWoah! Where are all of the segments on audio for this committee today? The discussion on the bill on ONCA 15-106 comes after ONCA 15-84 but the only section available on audio is afterward. The first segment is missing from the roster. The earlier segment is where APC Raymond Redcorn is caught red handed promoting those who have broken the law as to those salary increases outside of HR mentioned in an earlier comment.
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The wrong doing wasn't on the part of the Congress giving out illegal raises. It's the Executive Branch that is responsible and the Assistant Principal Chief Redcorn who advocated for those who have done so out loud and on tape but it appears to have gone missing from the roster of recordings for today's GovOps Committee.
DeleteComEcon is live but it keeps cutting out me. Is this happening to anyone else?
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